Bad Habits? STOP Trying to Fix Them (Here's Why) | #056 | Unlearned Wisdom

yourself you would change and genuinely want to stop. And also our bad habits, a willpower issue, or is this something deeper? And towards the end of the episode, we're going to show you how to overcome bad habits from the root. Welcome back to another episode on the Unlearned Wisdom podcast with yours truly pastor Johnny Chang, where each episode is a gospel centered lesson that you could apply to your life today. Let's go. That was a memory recall. Now I got to get it on on natural guys. What are we talking about today? Hey, yeah, the exercises are working week on week. Yeah. Yeah. Um, wait, sorry, I'm just going to crank out three quick hits. Come on. Number one, watch out for scammers. Number two, make sure to listen to this podcast on audio, because it greatly helps us out. So downloaded on Spotify, yes, audio downloads or Apple podcast or Amazon downloads help us more than you guys know. So if you like this podcast, please just go download it on your favorite audio platform. And what you should do is after you watch it on video, go download it on audio and just play it while you sleep or something. Um, okay. The other thing I want to say is that after service is coming back and I'm going to do these really quick because there's going to, we're going to talk about deeper later in the episode, Arizona Bay Area. That's all I say. If you want the dates, send afters to three, two, three, six, one, three, three, five, seven, seven, and we'll send you the details, but we'll talk about this more later. Okay, Johnny, back to you. Yeah, so, um, dang, now that that got me. That's all excited. Yeah. Oh, and the app is out. Yes, I'll just say beta testers. You're beta testing it. It's open to the beta testers. Get on the list. How do we get on the list in the description? Hey, okay. So many good things are happening. So exciting, so exciting. I just get so excited because it's like all the work we put in over the years is like, yeah, yeah. So when thinking about this episode, I was like, all right, what should we talk about? Aaron had kind of spoke, you know, gave us a little list that he always kind of goes through. Bad habits is one of those things that I think all of us can resonate with. I don't think I don't think there's anyone that's immune to like bad habits. I think even the top, you know, I don't know, billionaire super locked in person probably would be like, mmm, I could do a little bit better, right? So for me personally, I started to realize that I had a lot of bad habits when I ended up locked up. So in prison, I was like, man, there's certain things that I do where I would like feel some type of way towards like the enemies and be like, because the way that prison is guys, especially in California, it's completely different than the

streets. The streets are gang banging. It's my team versus your team and versus pretty much everybody else. When you go to prison, however, you literally have to click up. It doesn't matter if this dude shot at your brother or, you know, did some crazy stuff. Like you literally have to be like drop all of the street beef in the politics and then start to program as a race versus like a gang, right? And so for me, I would go out on the yard and I would like not trip, but I would be like aggressive with people. I would I would trip but not in a way that would get me in trouble. I throw little jabs and I'll be like, Oh, yeah, that's how y'all are. And you know, I'll say little things like that. And I remember like going back to myself and I'd be like, man, why am I like this? Like I have this bad, bad habit of like gossiping and also hating, but like sneak dissing, but not like fully, right? And so same thing I would think about my life and I like kind of reminisce a little bit and reflect while I'm in the process. All you have is time in prison. So you're like thinking so many things. And I think it's like straight up torture, but I would sit there and torture myself. Like, why did I do that? I run back scenarios. I'd think about how I would have done this thing or handled this situation much differently. And so for me, I was always like thinking, what the heck is wrong with me? Why? Why am I struggling? And then I realized something. Just looking back, even thinking about this, it took me, you know, 10 years to get out of the pen, but to remember and kind of discover this, basically, I realized all my bad habits, why they kept like repeating themselves was because I was focusing on what I was doing versus who I was. That makes sense, right? I was focusing on the outward, the behavior part, but not what was inside. So that's why I kept like tripping up when even I promised myself, all right, I'm not going to hate on people. That's some sucka stuff. Like, that's what, you know, females do. I'm not going to do that. And then I find myself doing it again because I wasn't fixing What I was actually what I actually was like your deeper identity. Yes I was having issues with the identity right where it's like dang I'm just a hater and I and I didn't want to acknowledge that so I try to change behavior Which then wouldn't fix my identity and it's like if you identify for example as a gang member Then how are you gonna act like a gang member if I identify as a firefighter How am I gonna act like a firefighter if I identify as you know lgbtq how am I gonna act like Jeremy? Jinx Anyways continue on

Sorry you caught a stray, but you caught two strays technically. Yeah, no, I know one day I just got all these comments, and they were like yo Johnny Rose did you I was like what? They're like, oh dude listen to the main stage and I was like listening and I was just like, oh, okay You were calling me a Man lover is it that you don't you don't know oh? Filled me. Wow, but there was a picture of you with a way a wig and Hey, pull up the camera. No cut the cameras. Let's run the fade Yeah, so Johnny Johnny cried that's why his eyes are red I Just whooped them With these gay paws of mine Was that not funny? Okay, so basically what I recognized was you cannot Behave your broken identity, right you cannot out behave your broken identity. Oh dang, so I was trying to out behave My broken identity. I was like, oh man. I'm I'm insecure on this now. I'll just act like I'm strong You cannot out behave you can't fake it till you make it. No way dude. You're gonna fake it until you realize you can't fake it anymore Basically, that's what it is. Has there ever been has there ever been a time you faked it till you make it? You can you can in a sense you can fake it till you make it But at some point like Johnny says you have to catch up with yourself because any anything that you have to lie Take receive you never truly had you guys a perfect way facts But it's like you can lie and have all this stuff, but this the if you don't if you were lying it's very artificial what about like when you like apply for a job and you fudge a little bit on your You're saying yeah, I know Photoshop and by the time the week rolls around you did a hundred hours of YouTube whatever it is that's fine, but you can't fake it to you make it think oh, yeah I know Photoshop until they're ready for a flyer, and then you can't make a fire right? They know it's trashy PT. Wow you're going to catch up with yourself at some point. All right, so you can delay it till you make it Yeah, kick the can down the road the king of the king. He's the king of the kicking cans competition well You should see on Aaron Street. It's just like down the road. It's just like a mountain of cans Yeah, you can put this house you can see just like a World record stack of cans. Yeah, what's the can you dreading the most that's at the end of that road? It was his wisdom tooth It's playing cans. I

get asked this question a lot where People ask like you know, so I'll be doing main stages and discord's Discord stages and I'll do lives and literally I'll see people tormented They'll sit there and I think all of us have experiences where they're like I don't I know this is bad for me I understand whether it's people like toxic relationships or just tossed toxic habits Where they just keep running back to it and returning back to it even though they Know I shouldn't be doing this. They already like understand the trajectory and the consequences of what happens even afterwards So people ask me that question Johnny. Why is it that although I know That I shouldn't do x y and z habit and I know it's going to make me feel empty lonely or whatever Less than why do I continue to return back to it? And for me It's an identity thing, right? So as I had mentioned earlier A lot of people think like behavior is just action But it stems from a broken identity if you have a broken identity then you're going to have these broken habits So people are super focused on How do I fix something versus like what in me needs to be fixed? Right versus like how do I so I it's kind of like a dog barking less Doesn't make it less of a dog, right? Like if a dog never barks, let's see There's some dogs that I know that never bark, right? It doesn't mean that it's not a dog. So people Whereas like, no, you don't even have to fix the habit. If you fix it at the root issue, which is the identity or where you're messed up internally, then it fixes that as a byproduct. Right. So I struggle with that so much because even apostle Paul says this enrollment seven, 15, he says, I do the things I don't want to do, the things that I want to do, I don't do and the things that I hate that I do. So I never wanted to be depressed, never wanted to be like lacking and weak or, you know, have these, I guess, these shortcomings and blemishes.

But all the time I would run back to just being sad or run back to being like depressed, I would tell myself, all right, positive thoughts, you know, manifestation was a big thing for me too. Like when I first heard, you guys remember the book, The Secret? Yeah, that was like energy and putting it out there. And you got to like put it into the universe, right? Everything is energy. So I try to live like that. And it just would never work for me. Cause yeah, I'll start off super strong. And then by nighttime, I'd be like, man, I hate life. This sucks. What's wrong with me? What the hell? And then I try to check myself. Like, no, no, no, okay, I stopped thinking like this. The book said you need to think like this. And if you put it out there and then it'll return to you and blah, blah, and there's Karmic debt and et cetera, et cetera, I was able to see like, oh, now I know a broken identity is never going to fulfill or fix, you know, or create like better actions. Like better actions is not going to fix a broken identity, essentially. Right. So yeah, true. And people use those bad habits to hide an identity sometimes. Yeah. Like here, I have a really crazy question for you guys actually. Wow. Um, on that exact note, okay, because we'll lie to ourselves a lot. Yeah, to have these bad habits.

So if your bad habit disappeared tomorrow, who would you have to become? Set out one more time. If your bad habit disappeared tomorrow, who would you have to become? Oh, right. Oh, because like I know for myself, because it's like, so what is it for you? A lot of times I can fall back on like, uh, just like a being a pothead or a smoking addiction or something, because it's like, oh, well, I just did that because I was smoking or like, oh, it's just a problem I have, whatever it is. But like if that bad habit was gone tomorrow, I would have like, I wouldn't have that excuse anymore. It would just be like a bumbling idiot. Yeah. It would have to face like, I would have to face the music in that sensor. It's like, um, but can it go the other way? Like, if you remove the bad habit, you wouldn't be like that. Isn't that the whole problem? Well, true, right? I'm saying like, we like remove the smokey. We're like, okay. Well, like, like you're saying there's reasons why people have bad habits. And it's to ignore certain aspects that may be hiding behind the bad habit. Right. Right. Got you. Okay. Sorry. Sorry. I didn't understand. And just because it's like, um, like, if, if I, if I wasn't smoking all the time and had to even acknowledge like my thoughts or identity or the reason why I was

smoking in the first place, I would have to like confront them. Like if that, like, if smoking was gone, who, what would I have to overcome? It's like all the reasons why I smoke in the first place. Really? That's a good one. I think for me, if my bad habit is always like being a perfectionist. So if I think that, oh, if it goes away, then I'd have to probably see how really weak I was versus like saying, well, I'm a perfectionist. That's why I overdid it. You know what I mean? Or I would be like a workaholic because I could hide behind like, Oh, I just want things done a certain way. Like what? I'm sick. Sure. Like, but I want this done a certain way, right? There's that. And then also the weakness aspect. Like that one kind of have I'm confused about. So if I was like, okay, I'm weak and my, it's not necessarily a bad habit, but let's say I, uh, I have like negative thoughts. Right. Then if you remove this bad habit of like rumination, then what does it mean? I'm just mental. You know, it's like, uh, just have negative thoughts all the time, right? You know what I'm saying? If you had to remove the bad habit of rumination, what would you have to face? Um, you would probably have to, I don't know, face all the things that you can't always ruminate about.

Cause maybe sometimes like rumination and overthinking is like also a comforting or coping thing because you're trying to understand or explain things to yourself. But when you eliminate that, maybe you just have to like face things head on or face that you don't understand anything. Yeah. Yeah. Dang. I wonder. So like I have a social, I have a phone addiction where I'll just like end this, just randomly like squeeze in like it's like, oh, I got downtime. I can just do a quick little doom scroll. It literally feels like what probably vaping feels like for you. And I have like it, like, if I really need to work, I'll do the extreme things I have to do to get it done. But I also, like if it's the weekend and I have nothing, I'll just burn an hour. Right. Just doing nothing, like looking at the most mindless, wasteful videos. And see, that's exactly what you would have to face, though. Exactly. So, so, so I'm trying to, I'm, I'm wondering for me, I'm like, oh, this is my way to decompress because I've worked so hard. Sure. But decompress, it's, it's decompressure, but it's your way to, like, disappear. Yeah. But it's like, from one, I think it, I think a lot of times it's to also avoid certain, like, well, I don't know. Maybe it's because it's like, it's so brain, like it allows me to just go completely branded. But right. But why, though? Because you would have to face an hour alone of thought, you have to face the real world. You'd be like, okay, whatever things you are potentially dealing with, you're thinking about, you would have to sit with that. Even the thought of having a free hour on a Saturday night, it's like you would have to face that. It's like, I guess my other thought, too, is though, like, I

also see how social meat, oh, it's, it's clicking. Other things clicked about it because I'm like, I do wasteful things on social media. And it's because I'm trying to entertain myself or in past time. Yeah. Otherwise, you would have to spend it with yourself in your thoughts and then, okay. Interesting. And now I'm not ready to share that on the podcast. I started having thoughts and I was like, oh, wait, I'm not saying that on a public forum. The social media is a really good one, though. It's a really clear example. People have it as a horrible habit and they use it to ignore the real world because they don't want to face whatever they actually have to do with other, it's cleaning your living room or whatever. It could be that simple, but it could also be like deeper likes. Yeah. Why are you wasting hours on this thing? Very true. I might as well get free therapy. What do I have to admit to myself and reveal about my identity? To start like, you know, like that I have this crutch or that I I'm wasteful with time or I get distracted easily. What am I? What do I need to first face or admit to myself? Well, first, you have to acknowledge like, okay, I have a bad habit. Yes. But secondly, you also have to realize that you're not really fighting your habit. You're fighting this idea of who you think you are. Does that make sense? Yeah, I'm just trying to wonder who I think I am because it's truly a bad habit. So for example, I'll wake up in the morning. So I'm I've been testing all these things to improve my sleep. What's super interesting? This is kind of tangential. But if I turn like not having Wi-Fi and cellular data turned on, like, because my phone I sometimes like listen to a podcast to fall asleep, I'll download the podcast, turn it off, and I get better sleep. Yeah, it's kind of strange. But here nor there in the morning, right? I open up, I turn on my phone just to like, well, I don't use it as an alarm, but sometimes I'll just grab the phone just because I want to check my sleep score. But then the second thing I do is I have no social media on this phone, except LinkedIn. And I'll open up LinkedIn and like doom scroll LinkedIn for like five

minutes. And then I'll realize no, grab the Bible, grab the Bible, but I can literally feel myself being like, I could do like three more minutes of LinkedIn. This article is pretty interesting or whatever it is. Okay, so let's start there. What? What do I have to reveal that? Damn, you're addicted? Yeah, you have to kind of acknowledge, not that you're addicted, but that there's at least a problem where you're like, there's resistance. Yes, you're like, Oh, three more minutes, like two, like we're like kids, you know, like, yeah, watch two or two and for two more minutes, like, as long as you acknowledge that, that's the first step. And I think it's a huge step. Most people don't even acknowledge that. They're like, what's three minutes? They do it like that versus you're like, yo, I need to be picking up the Bible and I need to like spend my time more effectively and efficiently, right? So it's, it's, I think number one, I think the biggest thing is just to acknowledge, okay, there are some resistance. I could probably do better here. Okay. And then that's step one. Um, and then step two, if it's like, for that, you can try it, right? Execute like, okay, from here on out, let me try to like set up a good habit, because you can also counterbalance bad habits with a good habit, right? You have to kind of it is resistant. So you have to just feel something that's stronger. So there's like this, this thing that Pastor always talks about where he's like, there's two wolves in your body, right? There's the, the, like evil wolf and the good wolf, right? And he goes, who you feed is going to like win at the end of the day. So the evil wolf, if it's like trying to eat at you, it could be like negative thoughts, depression, bad habits, all this stuff. If you keep feeding that and fall into it, which is like feeding it, then it's going to overpower you. But in the same way, if you feed like this, this good wolf, right, then it'll get strong enough to also defeat the negative. Like why does it feel like I know a biblical answer for that? Give me the biblically because we're born corrupted We're born like naturally like just opportunistic We're born for survival and bad things are usually four things that would be like even your body, right?

Why does it hold why is fat the lasting to go because that's the thing that it's like easy to store and that's a thing Where like anything that's easy that our body is known naturally just take the path of least resistance It's just how it is. So when it comes to resistance your body's default setting is I want to go to the easiest side Which is doom scrolling versus picking up a Bible sitting there and then you know practicing your mental stamina and like Provoking your mind to like in the synapses to fire and all that stuff, right? So it's it's just natural and and that's why when you look at kids, too They just the first thing they want to do is like cry when they don't get what they want Or they just give up on every little thing when I went to go see my my niece like she's oh She's like a magnet to her mom, bro Like I'm over here like give me some of that or give me your toys And she won't give it to me and she'll look at her mom and like depending on her She's like a year and some change right depending on like how her if her mom's like give it to him Then he'll she'll do it But if she doesn't she won't she'll just like sit there and cry and throw her body and like literally will like be like Melting having like a meltdown right and I'm like who taught the kid that like who teaches kids this type of stuff Right, baby Isaiah again would like lie and I'm like who taught you these types of things And it's because their mindset is already set to be like I'm gonna go the easy route getting in trouble is not easy So I'm gonna lie to get out of trouble You know studying is not easy So I'm just going to copy and I'm gonna cheat and I'm gonna do things that are just not it's all to preserve Self but actually it's rotting us from inside out right resistance dot, you know pressure makes diamonds like Truly no pain. No game. These things are legit real like every single person that and I'm doing this with the book reading right now where There's some parts that are so dry and the way that this nickel is car guy writes is very high level So at least to me and I'm just like he uses certain words that I'm like so I Want to like get off the book and like search it up But I just literally accept what it says and I just got kind of like keep reading and I'm able to see that It's not even you understanding what he's saying. It's sitting through it That's like the hardest thing where I'm just like and then not letting your mind drift as your as your reading is the Hardest thing, but that's what it does once you notice it It tells you to just pull your mind back like okay

I'm drifting right now because he talked about you know yesterday talked when I was reading he spoke about Gutenberg so the guy who created the printing press, right? Oh, yeah, Gutenberg. You have The guy who created the printing press. Yeah, what he created out of the printing press the first thing he made was a Bible and So there's a Gutenberg Bible and so right there. I'm right there after himself. Yeah, literally bro All he did was print it and he like it's the mind like it's my yeah So he's a Gutenberg Bible and then I'm over here like my mind started drifting to the historical aspect like oh I remember as I'm reading my mind is going Gutenberg. Oh, yeah That was made in 19 something and I'm like what the hell am I doing like what am I you know And then I have to like bring it back So I think to say I say all that to say and naturally we just have this mindset to think for ourselves And that means I'm gonna do whatever I want to do and the things that I don't want to do and have resistance on I'm not gonna do it. Why it doesn't make sense Until you recognize that that's what growth is is to do the things you don't want to do Right and you always know to like you always know when you're doing the wrong thing kind of like no one It's very rare that you're accidentally getting into bad habits We can talk about accidental bad habits or habits you might not notice or not might not realize But I'd say the vast majority of bad habits like you realize it's the same reason We're able to even identify the bad habits. Mm-hmm. Well, why you're even struggling with it It's like okay, you you know that the phone is an issue or whatever right right people often know Yeah, why are you struggling if you don't know like you wouldn't struggle you'd be like what this is fine, right? It's so easy so easy to talk about what you want to do but then in the moment we always fold that's like I I love to sit here and say I'm gonna stop smoking until I'm just dying for it I'm like I'm just gonna do this because whatever or it's like we love to look I need to stop using my phone until you're scrolling you're like whatever whatever like at some point You just fold like everyone just folds under them because exactly what you're saying It's like people just want to choose the easier out self-included and that's just how habits form I guess yeah, I think the reason why a lot of people can't overcome bad habits I did 12 steps, whether it's any type of accountability program. It's it's it places all of the responsibility responsibility back onto you. Right.

So like if you're already crooked and broken, then you try to fix yourself is like very difficult to do. So I think that's why Christianity smacks so much for me is like, you can't do it. That's why Jesus had to do it for you. And so I was able to kind of learn that it's not your like sheer willpower. How many times have we sat there and was like, okay, I'm going to try and even took the steps to do it. And still there was it wasn't fulfilled or we fall off or as you had mentioned, it just takes enough time to be like, you know what, forget it. This is too much. It's breaking my back and I'm just going to fall into it either way. So it is not just sheer willpower. It is something that's way deeper. And again, it comes down to like identity. It comes down to recognizing, Oh, I can't do it. I genuinely can't do it. There's something that has to lift me out of it. And so for all of those people who are watching, that's what had to come to me was I started with, I can do anything I put my mind to. If I just do it, you know, like I can, I can achieve it. Then it started to kind of get rocky and I'm like, okay, maybe it's just this thing that I struggle with. And then I started to see I struggle with everything in some way, shape, or form. I could always improve on anything. And then I would pacify myself. Well, that's human, you know, sometimes I get to okay to struggle with this. It's okay to struggle with that. But I started to then realize, like you had mentioned, I couldn't lie to myself anymore. I was like, bro, I'm making excuses for everything.

Uh, excuses that I don't want to read, excuses that I don't want to. I'm lazy, excuses that I'm being complacent. Literally everything was just an excuse for me. And I think that acknowledgement, which goes back to what I was telling Jeremy, once you acknowledge like, wow, I make excuses for everything. And no one likes to work with me. No one likes to be around me because they have to carry me. That's when things started to genuinely change. Like I realized internally that there was a problem versus externally. Okay. What happens in the situation where there's enough evidence of things that are still working out for you to where you're the bad habit just exists. And I'm talking about my situation, right? So I'll be doom scrolling or whatever. And I'll try what you're saying. I've literally prayed to God of God, I'm doing this bad habit again. Please remove this from me because it's affecting my work or, you know, it's just not good. I could see that it's going in a, in a bad direction than a positive thing. And I'll remember that to do that maybe like a couple of the times and then I'll forget and then I'll just kind of be like, uh, whatever, you know what I'm saying? So like, what, what do I do in that situation when, you know, in my life is and terrible, it's not like it's not, not like work is suffering. It's not like my health is suffering. It's I still get on my, I still figure out how to doom scroll and be productive. Yeah. So what do you, yeah, what do I do in that situation? Because I am praying to God and I do want to, do I really not want to remove? Cause I do want to remove. It's just hasn't gotten to the point where no one wants to work with me in the

business, falling apart. And I think that I wouldn't let it get to that point. You know what I'm saying? It's kind of like that secret alcoholic that somehow is still functional function until 40 years old, 45 years old and they disguise it as oh, social drinking or whatever, but they go out every night, you know, that's maybe how I feel. I think then that just means the bad habit isn't bad enough. Like, genuinely, it's bad. I'm saying if it's bad, then it would be, you know what I mean? Like there, there has to be a change where you recognize like, Oh, my gosh, this is not like what you had answered your own question because you're like, it's not breaking the stuff. Like that's your real heart. Yes, it's bad in your opinion, which is expectation, but it's not bad enough to be like, like you just said, it's just not bad. That's what I said. I'll say, I'll say the excuse. Yeah, I'll say I'll go deeper on my excuse. Okay. The reason is on a weekend, I don't go out and party and drink or anything. I'm like, well, it's, I have this two hours. I could be productive, but I want to relax and I worked hard or whatever. That goes to my point. No, no, no, but what I'll also tell myself is exactly. No, I agree with you. What I also say is why I know it's bad and I tell myself is because if I, if let's say I want another relationship or I want to do more in my life, this thing is going to ruin ruin that. Does that make sense? So that's why I'm trying to carve it now, because I'm like, I can do so

many other positive things with it, but I don't because I'm like, I'm single. I got all this time, cleaning my house. I'll do it tomorrow doing this. I'll do it later. You know what I'm saying? It's not affecting me that bad. Yeah, that's, I mean, I think also, but I want it gone, but there are the house you were delegating certain things you were bending so also think that there's times where it comes to the expectation aspect again where sometimes your guys is bad habits is only bad to you too right like I feel like I have like a very weak mind and I'm not articulate that's my opinion I feel as if I used too many filler words like back then understand make sense I would say that and I would hate myself for saying that and somehow the audience loves that they're like understand and I'm like like in the beginning rewatch my video no literally rewatch my videos early on I would be like understand and I'm like oh shoot like like I would you'll see it in my face I'm like oh like because it would hit me but people would go I love when you say understand so that I can sit there and try to think am I really understanding and I'm like yeah that one yeah exactly that's it yep that's I did that on purpose like I genuinely would do that so there's two bad habits to understand and perfectionist yeah oh sure buddy I just can't see but basically I was sitting there and I'm like okay it's you have to realize whether or not it's an expectation or whether it's really a bad habit I think a bad habit is when it affects other people number one and other people are calling it out like hey I noticed that you like some people have this habit of not listening and over talking people I mentor this guy who he just tries to formulate a person's sentence like naturally like you I think his last name starts with Kim but we just said the same thing we finish each other sandwiches see I'm done done do you guys understand how it is to have to finish up I guess with someone like Jerome Kim on here literally you're like deep in thought you just not swap your thoughts to just clowns you anyways bro I'm gonna I'm kidding guys because I'm you guys actually to write in the comments I know that's exactly how I feel don't leak okay because we'll block your comment I'm just kidding no legit though like I genuinely think it's an expectation

issue a bad habit we obviously we know what bad habits are but even those things are subjective to some people too like a bad habit is only bad to you and I think if you take it serious then yeah you should try to change it but it goes back to the grace aspect I want to change a lot of things about myself and I'll you know share these types of things with Jeremy and Aaron and they're usually like I don't see that it like it's okay like stop saying that like I notice I apologize a lot and you'll be like stop saying that man stop saying I'm like bro I'm sorry stop saying that stop saying that to me I feel like it's good to apologize but I guess I I you know overly do it so I don't think it's a bad habit but I do see why people would could take advantage of that like if I say sorry and certain people be like yeah you should be or oh this guy's always apologizing and like he he probably does mess up a lot right and it could shift the dynamic of like relationships and how people perceive me etc etc so I do appreciate that but again it comes down to is your habit really a bad habit meaning is it hindering you to the point where you're not being able to get stuff done in your circumstance in your situation I don't think so you get hell of stuff done go ahead go ahead mr. Aaron tell him no his habit could still be a bad habit because you're telling yourself oh I'm still getting enough done I'm still getting enough done but I'm sure there's things in your mind that you would like done that aren't done even if it was cleaning your room or if it's going out somewhere in public and doing something if you've wanted to get out of your house more and see friends whatever it is folding the laundry on my floor that's been there for four days sure even if it's that it's like um all those tiny tiny things like sometimes a bad habit is what you're not doing your your your tendency to not do something is also a bad habit so it's like true if you're like okay I deserve this I get to go on my phone I'll just tell you like we've talked about with James Sexton these apps we're not designed to make your life better they're actually designed to make your life worse so anytime you've put into that is not worth anything you're not you could put in hours and hours into reels and sure you might learn a thing or two but really it's really not worth in the long run if you took that same amount of time even though it's less easy and less fun to clean your place or fold your laundry or go out in the long run it's just gonna have a way higher return on mental having those habits like not digging into those bad habits so that triggered something for me because I thought I mentioned this kid or he's not a music he's 18 that's not

old? They're children. Yeah, but it's like it's still a legal adult, a kid I'm thinking 12. Yeah. So 18. And he plays a lot of games. And the one thing he says is he's he's addicted. And so he would he started off in the stream with Hey, Johnny, is playing video games sinful. And then later he's he's since been saved and understands that it's not, you know, this or that and slap on the wrist type of thing, follow this law, break this law, whatever. It's not transactional. But the one thing he realized, I think what I helped him unlock was exactly what you said. I'm like, when you spend all of that time, what are you getting accomplished? It's dopamine hits 100%. It feels good. But like, who cares if you rank for this, this, and that I know some of y'all be throwing your controller right now at the, you know, screen, but it's like, it's true. It's it feels like you accomplish so much. But in reality, you're not really doing anything. Yes. And like Aaron said, there are things, of course, where people's brains move quicker and they're like processing and all that is good. But I told him straight up, like if you spend, because he would spend like seven hours a day playing games, right? Eight hours a day. And I'm like, if you spend just half of that in your word, I think it would be so it would do so much more for your brain than if you were playing games. So I'm like, you could play three hours, three hours is a lot. He's like three hours in a lot. It goes like, that's a couple matches. And I'm like, dang, right? But I'm like, three hours is a lot. Let's say you play that, but then you spend another three to four hours reading the Bible or like, you know, reading a book. And he started, he was inspired by like, what I was talking about with the, with the book that I was reading. And now he's like, bro, I can recall stuff much easier. It's only been like three weeks, but I, I, I, I get like, he would forget his keys. He would forget where you put his wallet. He would forget like even what he had in the morning to eat. Like it was just, it was bad for him. And now he's like, oh, I'm remembering stuff. I'm remembering stuff. So he didn't see it as like a big issue. So to that point too, a lot of people don't think certain things are problems. And then until it becomes a problem. And some people don't realize that they have a bad habit, but it also, I don't want you guys to go to the other extreme where everything that you think is in matching your expectation is a bad habit too. So there's this balance of, you know, what's a good habit? What's what's not? A lot of it is subjective. Unless it's like blatantly obvious, like, yeah, I freaking smoke crack, like every week, like, you know, that's a bad habit. Okay. Obviously bad. But says you,

but then yeah, even for the video games, people, everyone, like, everyone wants to make excuses for everything. Like you could justify anything to the, okay, I'm learning teamwork. I'm learning and I'm going to become a pro. It's like, who cares? Yeah, who cares? Like, even yours. Oh, I've worked so hard all day. I'm going to use reels to wind down. It's like, nothing is why nothing is relaxing about watching someone get their head blown off. And then you see the some a millionaire with a car you don't have. And then you see all this like nothing is relaxed. Nothing's relaxing about seeing a guy at his head. I don't know. There's nothing to wind down by scrolling through reels. It's terrible for your brain. If you really want something relaxing, meditate, take a shower and you want to wind down. I want to see you meditate. You could not sit in your own thoughts for more than a minute. No, you know, what I do is like, when I'm doing things like washing the dishes and stuff, I don't listen to podcasts anymore. Oh, really? That's when you really have a second to actually think about stuff because it's like, you have to do it anyways. You do stuff with your hands. If you just don't put a podcast on, it's like those little moments where I'm like, oh, just throw a podcast on. Let me not think at all. Like, I literally started to realize every second of my day was like non-thinking. I'd be either working or listening to something, but there was never just like a moment where I could just think is watching like a YouTube video, like a firm video relaxing. Am I allowed to do that? No, I mean, it is, but it just goes put on a main stage, right? You can always, right, you can always justify it in a million different ways, but there's something there's better habits you can form to accomplish the same justification. I number one, do listen to main stages or I'll listen back to podcast episode number two. Can I say something? I think why our main stages are different than other people's podcasts. I don't really listen to crazy podcasts, but I know in main stages, it's very interactive. So when you're sitting here and you're telling other, because I asked the audience questions, whereas podcasts are more of like, you're just kind of an audience and you're listening in like any YouTube video or whatever. I think when you're sitting there and you're like, actually thinking about the question, like, how would I answer that? Johnny says, art is a sequel. What does that mean? What does that mean to me? Like, this would, this does better than just sitting there and turning your brain off, I would say. I am learning like, sometimes podcasts, I am learning a lot. Like, I was recently listening to one about how, well, actually, nevermind, it's not helping me. Just about how like everything,

like basically our government is completely a fraud. That's not helping my brain. that people should leave right now is what is an identity that you're, what is something you're afraid to admit about yourself? What does a habit you're trying to break and what is something that you're afraid to admit about yourself? Ooh, that's good guys. What you, what you don't reveal, you cannot heal straight up. So that's really good. That also reminds me, if you guys don't just leave comments, if you haven't subscribed yet, literally subscribe now, smash the like button, do whatever you got to do, hit the bell notification, whatever it is, so that you guys don't miss out. These come out every Monday. So yeah, guys, daily devotionals are back. Every morning, I'll send you a devotional that I personally write, rooted in scripture to help you with your spiritual walk with God, and make the gospel a habit in your life. There's nothing more powerful than starting your day with his word. Join over a hundred thousand others for your free daily devotional. Sign up with your email using the link in the description. My hopes to help you guys grow with your spiritual life each and every day. That's a question I had written down. It was, it was, what lie about yourself? Does your worst habit protect? Okay. That's scary for us. I know, I was about to say it's scary for us to all answer it. Okay, maybe. Okay, I'll go first. Maybe. I think maybe part of the social media thing is, is like, it's not loneliness in the traditional sense.

It's not like going out and drinking and stuff, but I think it's a way for me to feel like I'm still connected to my friends, because I don't really hang out with anybody anymore. So there's that, and I think that there's one aspect of like, yeah, that's my one, that's basically how I communicate with people. So being alone in my thoughts or realizing that I have no friends is like a coping mechanism, I guess, like when I'm sending names or whatever it is, or I post things and people responding, it's like, okay, that's my like way to socialize with people, but it's also like maybe avoidance. So I don't have to actually hang out with people. Can I talk about one that I had before, yeah, that I don't really have now? Well, I have it, but I think it was different. It was success. So success is I think the most like socially acceptable bad habit, because it allows, it allowed me to hide behind the fact that I was insecure, like, oh, I'm just being successful. I'm chasing. I'm grinding. I'm doing all of this stuff, right? I'm building something, but at the end of the day, like it was really like a selfish thing. Like I wasn't back then, I wasn't trying to be successful to help other people. It was solely for myself. But then I would sit there and go, oh, I'm so loving, like I'll bell my homies out or whoever needs my, some people out there still owe me 10, $20,000, because I would just give it to them. But it was more of like, I was utilizing my success to not only get friends, but also to show them like, look, I'm a good person, you know, I don't know if that makes sense, but it does. Yeah. Yeah. There's nothing now. You don't have any bad habits now. I'm trying to think.

I think you've worked on yourself pretty hard, I think my food, like eating, I guess. Yeah, I agree. I think I eat, I gorge on certain, like I'll just be like, oh, I'm super tired. Like I worked super hard. I think I deserve this and I will literally gorge. I will. What dude? That's why guys don't tell us your bad habits. This guy for sure will laugh at you. He's like, you don't have them now and then I'm over here being vulnerable, like hello. And he's over here like, you guys see why professional heart closer. This is someone who you don't follow. Okay. Follow me. Aaron's good. This guy over here. Look at him. He's getting red because he knows it's true. He's dying, bro, because I'm over here like I eat because I'm depressed and I'm depressed because I eat and he's over here like I do eat a lot of the needs all the wrong things I go, why am I sick? I'm like, don't eat 40 don't eat 40 gallons of hotpot. He starves himself all day. And then he has no choice. It's called fasting. It's called fasting, Aaron is not laughing because he has to now do his turn and this whole time. No, I was thinking of your turn. Your turn is kind of crazy. I don't really know how to respond to it, but thanks for sharing.

He's like, you're a loser. No, it's just interesting, like it's tough because people don't live in the same city anymore. No one ever has as many friends as they did in college and like, we've all had the moment where it's like, do I even have any friends because there's people I know, but it's like, do I really want to go spend the time and hang out with them? Probably not. Do you guys feel like that? But you guys don't want to hang out with me every second. I know. But I'm saying like your circle has definitely gotten smaller. Yeah. For sure. Man, it's cool. But I'm talking about even when you guys had a big circle because all of you guys were popular at one point, right? What's so funny because I don't know. That just sounded mean, but I wasn't trying to be because at one point we're cool. You know, it's like, it's like, that's like, again, when you hang out a job living on Jeremy. That's so funny. I didn't even clog that I'm serious. Yeah. I clogged. I was like, what the hell did I say that people don't know this about Johnny? I'm going to oust him right now. He secretly is pointing out all your insecurities, but he just keeps it to himself. What I just noticed, look, I noticed things and I don't say things because my mom taught me if you don't have something nice to say, don't say it at all, right? I'm sure your mom's taught you that to her, your grannies or whatever. But no, I, I think, no, if you got a tick, you blink too hard. Your eyes, maybe one eye is a little too far to the right. Johnny notices. Yeah. I'll be like, wow, you got blue eyes, one blue that way, one blue that way. No, I'm just kidding. You're not kidding, but anyway, let's continue.

OK, but, but I, dang, I forgot what I was going to say saying we used to be popular. Yeah. So, so wait, what was it? You said at one point you were popular because we said our circles were getting smaller. Yeah. So I'm saying back then, when you guys had more friends, right? And we're so more social. Did you guys were everyone homies, like genuinely, like, Oh, these are my homies, my rider dies. Because right now we have rider dies, right, obviously us, but it's like, was it like this, I don't know, 10 years ago or 15 years ago, for you? I felt that way. I do, too. And do you still think their rider dies now, though, is what I'm saying? Yes. You can go back then. Same. Whoa, that changed for me. Now, maybe it's the gang element, but I was like, could be a rider die, but then the people switch up, right? So I'm just curious. I asked that because I'm, I'm curious to see like people who aren't part of that life, let's say, do people just switch? Because biblically speaking, it could be that they switched, but we just never picked it up, too, right? Kind of like the habit of like, I don't know if I have a bad habit, or if this is a good habit, it happens. So I was just curious. People definitely switched, but low key people I didn't mess with anyways. It's like, you kind of know who's going to switch. You kind of know, like, you guys heard the story on the boat when I was talking. Oh, yeah, yeah. That was crazy. And I don't talk to certain friends anymore, but it's like, but the ones that I still am friends with, I feel like I knew back then. And even now, like, you guys have met a lot of my friends, and I'm going to a lot of their weddings.

And it's just like, I think the difference is proximity. It's like back then, when you see someone every single day, it obviously feels like way more brotherhood. Now, when you text like once or twice a month, it's just tough. True, true. And yeah, those are still my ride or dies. And if I was in the hospital, they'd come visit like to that level. But you don't feel it every day. It's not like in your life anymore. So it's just very different. That's a good point. I feel like then, as an adult, you've got to make an effort to physically move your location. Yes. Or else you're going to become a lonely, crazy cat man like me. Oh, also one thing I will say, and we're so funny. What's so funny? Nothing. I told you. I'm trying to share my heart. It's okay. I didn't say anything. I'm just, I think it's just, it's very fitting. Something about the way you said that just... Except my heart. It's fitting. My heart is closing for some reason. I don't know why. It's something about your demeanor and the way you say things to me. It's very fitting.

Some stories write themselves. Nope. Don't play with the chord because I just imagined... I can do whatever I want you to do. Wait, what was I about this? I'm saying, as an adult, you've got to really try to make an effort to either live close to your friends or family. Absolutely. And what I will say, and we're also kind of going through this, but when I got out of my last relationship, I made a serious effort to go hang with my friends that do live in LA, like who I brought around. You guys have seen a bunch of shows. And so far, even in the last month or two, that has also just made me feel better. Just having more people in the fold. Also, even going out with not just us three, but the... I don't know what I'm just named up everyone, but the other key pieces, of course, are the heart. It's just like, since I got out of a relationship, and I'm actually going and doing... Like, going out and doing more. It has actually made me feel like, "Okay, I do know six people in LA." What I think is cool, not to like go too much on a tangent, but what I think is cool is that a lot of people say... I'm sure you guys heard this. You guys have all businesses.

But then like what about when friends be like from your business, when people from your business become your friends? What do you guys think? - That's different. - That's different? - Yeah, because the intention is, yo, we depend on each other to make this thing work. And then when it works, it's like, okay, great. And you become close to it. Whereas sometimes if you're, it's your friend, if the business is doing horrible, the friend might be like, well, we're friends. Whereas business people always be like, that comes first, you know what I'm saying? - Yeah, okay. - It's familiar with family. - Yeah, go ahead, go ahead. - Well, I'm just going to say it's classic. Like it's really, really easy to make friends with the people you work with. It's really, really hard to do work with the people your friends with. - She is. - Just never works out. - Never works out. - Because we went recently, we could talk about this, the magic castle stuff. - Yeah. - We went with us and, you know, webin, Mr. webin, and it was just cool. We had a blast and it was, and I just,

I guess I didn't understand the concept, but I remember like, what do people mean when they say friends, you know, but then obviously I've had businesses with even family and it was, it was difficult. Like you said, and I'm like, why, what's the difference? And you kind of unlocked that. It's true. A lot of, for a lot of you guys out there who haven't started businesses or think that it's okay to start with like friends and family, it's just no because you can't tell them like to work 'cause now it's, they take it as personal, right? It's like, hey, bro, it's like, what are you trying to say? You know me, bro, you know I'm not like that, but it's like, yeah, but if you're slacking, now it's no longer like employer telling employee, it's like homie telling homie, and then there's this boundary of that they feel like you cross, right? And so it's very difficult. - You can work with a friend if you're willing to lose a friend. That's just like how it goes. 'Cause it's like, at some point, someone's gonna disagree about something. Even if they're the hardest working, even if they're super hardworking, you guys will just disagree about things and you have to make a decision for the betterment of the business

or you just have to, people are gonna have to bend and fold, but when you were friends first, it just makes that harder and you just mess with people less. Like I think we've all gone into business with our friends that we probably don't talk to as much anymore. Even my old partners and other things. And it just happens, you see it all the time, very famous part businesses and TV shows and everyone splits up and walks away from things 'cause they can't do it anymore with their friends. - Dude, I would say that like, starting a business is almost, to me, as difficult as a relationship, like a love interest, you know what I'm saying? It's like your livelihood depends on the other's person. It's constant communication. You have to deal with a lot of problems, but-- - Dang, at this point, for the three of us, it seems like building a business is easier than getting a relationship. - I know that's the grace though. Genuinely, I think that's like, with that being said, I genuinely believe it's grace. Like we mesh really well. I think our company is just super chill and I'm not like fluffing our feathers. Like genuinely, I'm like, man, it's just cool to be able to like have everybody focus and not like fight over small BS stuff, you know? You guys make it easy for me to like,

'cause I know people who own businesses and they feel like they're babysitting everybody. - Yeah. - Right, I mean, you've been doing that. So for me, I never really feel like I'm doing that. Like, I don't know, it's, it's, I, one of the fears I'll be honest with you guys is when I first started the business and why I wanted to just do everything solo was because I was already dealing with people who were coming to me for all these problems. And then I'm like, dang, I gotta do that with my business. So where am I gonna find a place where I can just chill, right? So, but at the end of the day, it's like, there's like, I do help people in our company, obviously on the spiritual side, but I guess it's just, it's cool seeing that I help them. And then it helps us, like the level up for this person will also level up our business. Like, you know, it's, it's really cool. And so I didn't, I didn't calculate that part. It was more of like, again, that selfish thinking of like, okay, I have a perfect thing where I'm doing everything right. And I'm accountable for everything that I do. If I add this person and this person now, I'm gonna have to like manage my emotions, manage their expectations. And it was, it was very tough, but I'm sure like people here, you know, I was talking about this on our main stage today

on Discord. I was like, man, I'm just thankful that we hit, you know, 83, whatever million, you know, views a month on a short month. It was, and I was like, dang, all we were focusing on was just the gospel. Genuinely, yes, we're doing level ups. Yes, we're doing the carousels, whatever. But that wasn't like the main thing. It was just like, how do we get this information out there? At least on my end. And, and I saw that jump and I'm just like, dude, this is so cool. Amazing team members, you guys, and just like your brains, but being able to like, put it all together and then actively go against, or actively go and move towards that one goal was such a cool thing. Yes. You know, it's crazy. And it kind of goes back to what you're saying, right? You're kind of helping them with their identity and they're able to shed habits that wouldn't necessarily allow them to level up or hear another teammate properly or put themselves in another person's shoes. But when you are able to help them overcome those things, it's like the outcome is more peace. Oh, whatever that person said to me doesn't bother me as much or I understand them better and then everything moves forward. - Yeah, this couple, I was walking to the CVS out here and I was getting a prescription

and they feel like I just heard Johnny Chang, right? And I was like, what the heck? And I was like walking in the alleyway. So I was like, extra like, what the hell? And this guy pulls up and it's a Hispanic guy and his wife. And he's like, you know, saying all the quotes that I say, man, don't trust your thoughts. I learned these things from you and we're better off because of this. And I was like really shocked to like hear that because you're sitting here and you don't know these, I don't know these people. - Yeah. - So they come up to me and they're like, Johnny, bro, you changed our lives. We're closer to God because of you. And I'm again, not knowing who these people are, but they're like knowing everything about me. So it was just like, I don't know how to explain it, but it was really cool to see, but also almost bizarre. Like, yo, this is nuts, bro. You know my name and you call me by my name. And it's like, and I could see, they're like, we're trying to come to your live events. We saw the baptized Arizona thing. Like, could you do one in LA? Like, yes, we were baptized. We want to get baptized by you. And I'm just like, dang, you don't even need to get baptized again, you know?

But it's this gratitude from just us pumping content. They're in that 83 million reach, right? And so it's just so, it's just amazing when you're putting the kingdom first, Matthew 633, to seek you first, the kingdom of heaven and all else will be added unto you. It really is true. Like, if you just focus on helping and like helping others by pushing the gospel, things just align for us so much. It wasn't like we're trying to hit 83,000. It wasn't like, we're like, this month, guys, we're gonna do 60 mil, whatever it is. Like, but man, if we stay on this track, we pretty much will reach a billion people every year. Like year over year, and mind you, that's just a year and like eight months into this. Imagine five years into this, like what we're gonna be reaching and who we're gonna hit, you know? It's gonna be a worldwide global. We already kind of are, but it's like, it's just gonna mega, mega, multiply, yeah. - And I mean, I might as well see that again, it's like the app is gonna be crazy because it's like all those things, right? Someone has to watch a clip, then they have to go. And we have certain tools that have to go to your website, dig around, but this is just gonna like, feed them what they should do every day.

- Yeah. - And it's not hard. - Yeah. - So I'm really excited to see, because I do notice that, right? We see a lot of the annoying internet troll comments. - Of course. - You know, a lot of the people that also do support us, it's more positive than negative. - Of course. - But there's a lot of people that are getting changed like this couple that never comment. You know what I'm saying? So it's always cool to me when we show up to an event, and I see thousands of people. And I'm just like, whoa, like look at how many people in this city have been affected by the message that have stuck with the community, that have had their lives changed like I have, like Aaron has. You know, it's like, the impact is, it just makes us all worth it. - Yeah, and speaking of the app, I think that's the one thing that he kind of mentioned was, like not a habitual thing, but he was saying, we always come and listen to you. We're always searching, we're always growing, like the way his exact words verbatim was, we've listened to other preachers, but when we listen to you, it just makes everything simple. You make everything simple and digestible.

And I've heard that, like hundreds of times, thousands of times from people. And I think the app is why it's so powerful. It's because I started to think like, why am I making this app? Sure, preaching the gospel, but I could preach without the app, right? What is it that I'm doing? And then I realized something. The reason why I'm able to articulate and simplify things was because I literally just spent time with God every single day. I made God a habit in my life, genuinely. And so I want real relationships with people and the only way to have a true real relationship is to make God a habit in your life, is to make it a habit in your life. I'm gonna visit them, I'm gonna talk to them, I'm gonna text them. You may not think so, but when you're texting somebody you care about every single day, that's an habitual thing. You're gonna text them whenever you're free. You're gonna, it's so cool. So I didn't even think about it like that. I was just like, yeah, the app is cool. It'll reach people, that's great. But I don't have to do social media. I can literally do what I used to do, jump in the prisons and just preach seven days a week

if I want to, any prison will open up to me. But at the same time, I'm like, man, how can I make it a habit? One time there was a guy, I'll share a story. There's a guy who was pissed. I was at Lancaster State prison. Um, I had gotten sick for like two weeks, so I didn't come. And this was after our 16 week program. I think we're on the 14th week. And that last week I came was graduation week for them. And the, the dude is an African American dude. He's like, yo, Johnny, like, I got, I got a holla at you about something. And he had this energy of like, I got to talk to you about something. And I'm like, all right, he's a yo man. How come you didn't come these last two weeks, bro? Oh, and I was like, and at first I felt like he got at me foul, right? Cause I want, again, I was thinking about myself and I'm like, because I was sick. You did, did you not hear, right? Which they didn't tell him why, you know, they just were, this was on, on the deacons, but they were basically saying, yeah, it's okay. Like Johnny will be back, but I started to realize what he said, which then made me think about the app was he goes. I need this, bro. I don't know how else to get in the Bible. And like when I read the Bible on my own, he said, I feel resistance. I feel condemned. But then the same verses that I read, you'll talk about and it'll make me feel happy and hopeful. It'll give me the unlock. And so I need that.

I need that. And I started to realize that was his thing. He would show up early. He would sit in the chairs. He tried to catch me when it's possible. He would tell the CEO, a seal. Can I get in real quick and talk to Johnny? Like, seals would come up to me. Johnny is a cool, I let him in. It's okay. And, and then I, I recognize that people are so, they're so hungry. And, and they would like to, to just have the real gospel presented in the way that we presented, right? Aside from all the trolls, that's only like 5%, right? 95% of these people, and you guys know who you are, you're sitting there going, man, I appreciate the gospel. I appreciate the way it's laced down. I appreciate the way, I appreciate the way that Johnny kind of delivers that. And so I think the app is going to multiply that by crazy where you're literally sitting there, you have the gospel bot where we, I put all of my teachings into it and it's going to answer you 24/7, literally. And then at the same time, we have the daily devotionals where it's a, it's a habit where you're going to have to read it every single morning. I'll write them. It's up to you guys. Obviously read it, but we'll send it. Every single morning, even now, like, I'll, I'll, I'll get the, the notification. It's like daily devotional in this morning. I'm like, whoa, no, and I start to even read. I want to go, oh man, I wrote about this guy.

So smart. He's so, you know, so much about this. I was like, this guy's a copycat. No, but it was, it, I started to see like, that's what it was. Pastor Kim at the foundational level was making spiritual life a habit for me. Get up in the morning, 4 a.m. Well, I don't want to get up at four. Okay, just try it little by little. I started to develop these things and I'm like, yo, that's what's missing is application, habitual application and habitual practicality. Literally, that's all it is. And, and, and anybody can, can become just greater by doing that. You practice something enough. You become good at it. That's just how it is. And we're literally taking that, that thing and applying it to spirit. It works for everything else. Why not spiritual life? It's just how it is. It's also interesting because now Israel lives in the church. And again, it's like very similar. He was like, dude, it was so tough. But now he's like, he's just a completely different person. Yeah. He walks around with this like smile on his face and he's just so happy. Even when he's getting chastised, he's happy because it reveals things about him. And even when he's like, also like he kind of went through the same thing where he was just trying to be good and be perfect in the program. And then you realize that's not what even Pastor Kim wants. It's such a strange, it's just like the system works.

It works, man. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of like a good foray. We're talking about bad habits and good habits. And it's like setting up your environment in a lot of ways. And I think that the world we live in today, it's very hard to fall into a bad habit because they make bad habits easy. So true. I think that if I could give one piece of advice to people out there, it's like, if you literally are struggling with something, you have to just create the environment for it, for it. You can't say that you want to quit eating junk food and you still have it in your house. It's just not like you're just going to cave to it. I am that way, you know, who are you talking to? Myself, you weren't referring to anyone here? Yeah, no, no, I genuinely was having myself. I'll be honest. Sure, buddy. I went to Whole Foods the other day because I was like, I need to get more great yogurt and fruit. And then I was like, Oh, new ice cream flavors. I bought two of them. And I was like, and then I was like, Oh, I'm going to save these for when I can eat, like, have a little bit. But then I was like, I got home and I was like, you know, I worked out today and I didn't eat, like, I didn't eat that. It's always the justification. No, I didn't eat bad. And I was like, I just want to taste the top of each other. W self control. You know where you messed up the most though. And in that buying it. No, not telling me and having me share with

Yeah, Johnny, we cleared it to be in both of it. You know, it's funny. I was like, I'm just going to eat the top of one and I ate half a pint of it. And I was like, Oh, my gosh, and I sealed it up. And I literally sat back on the couch. I was like, I can't believe I did that. And then I was like, let me just have one scoop of the new one. It's bro needs. And you knew I do you knew what I was doing. Also, when I was in the grocery store, I bought all the healthy stuff and I could go cut straight to the aisle. And I was like, I just want to do a lap. And then I went by the ice creams and the chocolates and I was like, Oh, kind of put you on one of those children's leashes. Yeah. Do but sometimes if I don't have a sweets in my house, I literally be walking around. I I pace. I'm like, I just want something sweet. You should just replace your vices with another one, like smoking or meth. And you know, you know what Aaron did expertly? He veered off the conversation and he never answered the question. Got him. Watching him like a hawk. Yeah. I wonder how that happened. Hmm. If my worst habit is is being a smoker, smoking, being a piehead, smoking too much weed. Did you fully quit vape though? After my last breakup, I don't I quit dad pens. Yeah, good, good. I have never seen you with a vape. Like when I'm around my friends and my sister, like sometimes I'll you're sneaking, but you're not buying them. Well, I mean, okay. Look, we're taking the hole. Hey, listen, I'm an honest guy. Um, what do you say about that when they go on? Just be honest. It was an excuse. It was justifications. I was like, Well, I'm sad. I went through a breakup. This is just easy. I don't usually do this. Just one time. It's like me like justifies like I can top out. I can do this. It's not that crazy. I'm doing so good on so many other things that this ain't that serious. And then I just got totally stuck into it again. But hey, that's part of it. But I don't know what lie about myself that that it's hiding necessarily my bad habit. Probably a lot of lies. Just the lie that that I'm happy half the time. Like, I'll just chill out instead of like, yeah, I'm chilling. But it's like, if I didn't suck that, I'd have to face like all of the actual things I'm not happy about or waiting or just all the cans that I'm kicking down the road. I mean, I don't need to actually list the real lies, but I think that's what my bad habits hide is like the things I avoid. Cause I just push it off. I'll smoke and then I'll even have social anxiety. I'm like, I can't even believe I was about to confront that. I'm like, no, let me not do that. Um, but yeah, I think it's good that people acknowledge though. Like, like I said, certain people don't even get to that position where they, they know that they're trying to justify. Right? A lot of people are like, they believe that they're justified. Like, no, but it's true. Whereas we know that even though we're trying to justify it, it's just not. Yeah, it's not true. Our bad habits are some bad habits. A luxury. Like, it's not true. Like for example, you wouldn't smoke if you had lung cancer. You wouldn't eat junk food if it's literally going to kill you tomorrow. You know what I'm saying? Like, do you, is it a lot of sense? Like, you can have these bad habits. You would go to work. If you're literally going to be foreclosed, you know, you wouldn't skip work or sit on your, your butt. Cause I think about a lot of things too. And maybe God did this to me on purpose. Cause he knew I would just be a degenerate. Is that like, I couldn't do certain things that everyone else could do. Because I didn't have to do that. Because I didn't have enough money. Or I would literally not survive. So I had to work multiple jobs. Things like that. You know, so, so like, is our, our bad habits a luxury? Yeah, I think so. I think to an extent. I think also certain bad habits are just people who can't get out of it too. Like, it's like a trap. Like for real. Certain people, I think like, like if you're addicted to something for real, it's, it's, you're now having like chemical imbalances. You ever see people come down from like heroin. It's bad. You literally get sick when you get off of it. Versus like, you, you almost seem healthy when they're on it. Right. So I think it depends. But yeah, for the most part, I think so. I think habits are bad habits specifically. I think any habit is a luxury. If you actually think about it, even good habits. Like if I sit here and I want to work out, I need to have money to buy a gym membership. Right habitually speaking, like, I'm necessarily you were in a prison cell. Stop lying to yourself. You're doing 300. You told me in the morning you do 300 burpees a day. I would be limited to calisthenics before. If I want to look like honored. Then I got a body building lift weights. I can't just be carrying, you know, paper bags full of water. They're, they're, they're really, they're really, they're really, so you're saying like a good habit, you know, yeah, I feel like good habit, any habit that anything is like, okay, it comes back to grace, obviously. So yeah, to have a bad habit, Loki is grace too. I thought about that. Because look, certain bad habits made you fall and then turned you back to God, right? If you think about it, for me at least, my bad habit was again, thinking that I could do everything. And then in the end, I realized I can't do anything. My bad, I guess a bad habit for me was again, like thinking that I could, I don't know if it's if you call it a bad habit, but it's like I could plan everything that and, and I could control everything. So I would go back to this control freak mindset where I, oh, if I put my mind to it, I can do it and constantly trusting myself. And then in the end, that led me to God to go, Oh, you think so? Okay, how is everything working out? And I had to like take a telescopic view and be like, Oh my gosh, I suck. Literally everything has failed in my life. And I can't believe it. I can't believe that happened. How many people do you think are out there that are like, Johnny, I've have this habit. And I, I know I don't want it. And I pray and I pray and I pray. And it's, it's so bad. But you really telling me that God wants me to have this for the rest of my life? I don't know if God wants you to have it for the rest of your life. I do know that there are stories in the Bible, like Paul,

who had a thorn on his side and he had it until he died. When he went to God three times, certain things keep you grounded. I think for me, when I, I think a bad habit of mine is, is rumination, where I'll think back to a lot of things I could have done better. But that's what keeps me close to God. Because every time my mind starts to drift to the past, I'll think of Isaiah 43 16 to 19. I'll think of verses that say like that, do not think about the things of the past or the former things and basically look to the future. It's just, it's such a double edged sword, right? I want to be cautious here because I don't want people to think, yeah, so I can have my corn addiction and this is what's keeping me close to God. But I also don't want you guys to condemn and go, wow, I'm, I'm less than because of this. Sure, you can be less than, but in the eyes of God, that is exactly what's keeping you close to him. I know some pastors like I say who will admit that and say, man, I struggle with it. And their sermons will be based off of them struggling. And they're the ones that most people gravitate towards because they don't look like the goody two shoes. They don't look like the suited and booted pastor from seminary school who never falls who's super strong and understands. Rather, they're more relatable and they're just commendable in that way where it's like, man, I can't go to another pastor. I have to go to you because you get it. So it's, it's very different. I think Romans 828 sums it all up where good habit, bad habit, whatever it is, all of it is working for the greater good to those who love God. The intention of your heart has to be real and has to be true. And what I mean by that is God knows and we know to whether or not our habit is being accessorized. If it's being enabled, if it's something we hide behind, even if you're like that, you don't have to change it, but you do have to bring it to God who will change it. And so that's the most important thing is, are we going to acknowledge step one that we have this thing? And what does, how does God see it? Not what you see, not what your mom sees, not what your spouse sees. What does God say about this? What does he see about this? And we should spend, even if we spend all our lives figuring that out, I think God honors that more than you just kind of sweeping it under the rug to then sit there and go, I'm only, I'm going to do this because I don't, I just, I don't want to move out of this. Like I want to stay in this position because it feels good. You can feel good. Bad habits are bad and they're hard because they genuinely feel good. Like sin, I would argue feels good. That's why people struggle so much with it is because it's hard to kick addiction, feels bad after, but in the moment of it, it feels great. That's just how it is. But at the same time,

we have to really think about it. We have to go, okay, this feels good to me. But what about God? What does God think about these things? And I think that is a small step, but it's huge in that it shifts at the very least, the burden away from you. And to think about, okay, God, You see me. What can I do? It's much Like, it's cool, right? I'd rather people struggle and go, you know what, God? I struggle and I acknowledge the struggle. And I even acknowledge that I like it. But what do you think about this? I think too many people don't get to that position. God is not surprised by your addiction. It's not like he, and he can't, he's not overwhelmed by it either. He's not overwhelmed by your bad habits, 100%. But there's something that he's allowing you to see, and it's not just as simple as free will, because he can explain that without you being caught up in an addiction or having a bad habit. There's something, and I believe that's something, and at least in my experience, is going to him. Hey, I'm using this so you can come to me not just indulge in it, basically. - I have one silly question, okay? - Okay. - So, do you guys know who Malibu Fit is? - Yes, I see it. - You do know Malibu Fit. - I'm up to date. - Okay, so Malibu Fit is this guy, and he looks weird. - His upper lip doesn't move when he talks.

Anyways, so Malibu Fit, he's like kind of like a bodybuilder, a personal trainer dude, and he blew up literally 1 million followers on TikTok in two weeks, and it started off because people were first clowning him on his looks, and then he revealed, hey, I served in the Marines or something, and I got hit with an IUD, tried to get plastic surgery to fix my face. - That's what I like, tell us now. - It's an IUD. - IUD. - I didn't catch that either, I'm like. - He got hit with a UTI, it's like, what? - Chairman, I just don't know what I was getting ready. - Sorry, look that up on your own. - Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. - You're just getting, it's worse by them by the minute. - No, it's not. No, it's not, let me just get the story. - I do not endorse this message. - So you got hit with an IED, and so that's why his face looks a certain way, and so, but so then he, so at first people were, he was first like a joke, but then because of his positivity, he's like a trainer, he's like a super positive guy. He just kind of films like him in real life, training at the gym about his life, trying to get people healthy. Yeah, he's super positive, so it flipped,

and he had a huge audience, but then it was discovered that he lied about the IED. He served in the Marines, but he didn't get hit with an IED. - So then what was it then? - Well, not nothing, he just got plastic surgery on his face for whatever reasons. Maybe he was self-conscious about himself. - Yeah, he's saying he got bullied for being ugly his entire life, and then he basically, the comments online were getting so atrocious. This was 10 years ago, so he's been doing content for a long time, just having his moment. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - The comments were all so mean that at a point of vulnerability, he just lied and said, "I got blown up by an IED, and you guys are all just jerks." Just kind of flip it to them. - But I will say, because of the IED thing, people heard and they're like, "Wow, this guy's so positive, "he went through something so difficult, "and looked at how positive he is, "and he's helping all these people." And so that also built him up to where he was, and then most recently, he was like, "Hey, he explained it. "Hey, I lied, but-" - 'Cause he got exposed, he got called out by someone who spoke to him. - Oh, so he didn't. So he didn't just come out and say it, someone exposed him, and then he- - And then he came erect.

- That's why a lot of people- - I think that's why people trip, okay. - Okay, but here's my question. If you told a lie that helped you help people, what should the outcome be? - Damn, that's crazy. - For example, if I say that I'm five, 10 on a dating app, just to get more girls, but I'm only five, eight. - That's not good 'cause you're benefiting yourself. The whole girl, because she finally gets to meet up with this amazing guy. - Was this person benefiting themselves? - No, yeah, well, totally. - Completely. - You think so, right? - 100%. - Okay, sure. He's getting views and things like that, please. - No, but what I'm saying is- - He's also avoiding hate. His page turned into a positive thing of love and respect instead of just this guy's weird looking. - Okay, but he wasn't- - But what was his original thing- - He's not selling a course, like was he? No, I'm not talking about selling a course. I'm saying, does he genuinely help people? - Yes, yes. - And I'm saying, so when it comes to the gospel, there are certain people that, even with pastor, right?

There's things that they'll with, they may not lie, but they withhold information. - Because it can hurt people or whatever it is. - Of course, of course, yes. - So, is it like that? I don't know how to- - No, no, no, okay, so is he doing that? - No, no, no, so, he's a trainer. He's all about fit life. So there's nothing, there's no lie about that. He's literally filming himself with clients at the gym. He's at the grocery store telling you what to buy. He's talking about his fitness experience. He's giving you actionable advice to get healthy. There's nothing he has to lie or hide or whatever. Only lie was purely about the IED in his face. And he said, and that is why people gain, like he said, it turned people from hating to sympathy. And then they're like, wow, this guy's so positive. And because of that, he's not like he was ever like, "Look at the millions of views I'm getting, "by my training course, blah, blah, blah." He just kept doing his thing, and now he was seen as a positive guy and people respected him. So that's why I'm also like, he's not a grifter per se. - Yeah, but it was still a lie. So it's like-- - It was still a lie, but I'm like, he is going viral and went super viral because he looks different, and it's very scroll-stopping.

When someone looks like this starts talking on your page and people just stop, and then all the comments start firing off because they go, "This guy's ugly," and then someone goes, "No, he survived an IED," and then it's just this constant when they're fighting in the comments. So it would go super viral because of curiosity, not just because he was some amazing positive influence or whatever, it was going viral because of curiosity. And the lie was-- - I think he should have just, if he should have just stayed positive, even if he didn't have the IED. - Which is what he's doing. He apologized, and he's just making videos and a lot of people think that originally, he should have never said that. - Yeah, I think originally, he should have just been like, yeah. - Stayed positive. - Right, it showed weakness, for sure. And it's tough, and I don't-- - But if he's really helping people genuinely though, right? Let's think about this. Like, so a person is gonna sympathize, let's play devil's advocate a little bit. So let's say a pathological liar goes one plus one equals two. Does that, do we not listen to him because he's a pathological liar? Like, do you understand what I'm saying? Like, where do we draw the line is what I'm trying to say?

Do you understand what I'm saying? Like, where would we draw that line? - My other feeling too is he slipped up. That wasn't wrong, but he's not, it's not like he sold something-- - Of course, that's what he had for sure. - Like, whereas liver kings said he was natural, while he's juiced to the gills, and he sold this ancestral lifestyle when he eating liver and all this stuff, when he was selling protein bar, like he made hundreds of millions of dollars off of a lie, which I think is so different. So I kind of like, I give him the pass. - I give him that pass. - Not that pass, just the pass. - Yeah. - I'm completely unbiased, I don't feel one way or another. - Same, I don't really care. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. - Okay, but it goes back to the point. Okay, okay, who cares about him? Sorry, that wasn't even, I used him as an example. So now back to the question, if you told a lie, but if you told a lie and it helped you help people, what should be the recourse? - Dang, that's a good question. - I think 10 years later, you should have to apologize for it when someone calls you out,

and then you keep it pushing. That's what happened to that guy. - It's only different for me because of the gospel. So there are certain people, let's say, if the, like I've seen pastor Kim gain hearts, so I learned from him a lot, but I'm thinking like there's times where he doesn't lie, but he doesn't tell them the full, like he won't tell them exactly what it is, and it's just like any person who would tell somebody only when they were ready, does that make sense? - Yes, yes. - It's like withholding a truth, because it's like to protect them versus not, you know-- - You know, I got the perfect story. When you told it about how your mom revealed to the family that the son died-- - True, true, true, true. - The grandma and everything. Okay, so in that case, with my mom, in Bible class, I told that story, and a lady straight up was like, "But your mom's a liar." And I was just like, "It's bad you right now." 'Cause it was my mom. But basically the story is my granny, she was really close to my first uncle's second child, which passed away.

So he got into this tragic car motorcycle accident, and he basically, he died. But they held this secret because she was old already, and she was like geriatric, so they're like, "Dang," and she easily stresses out. Like she almost lost her life because her husband died, and he died like, I think three years or two years before this kid died, right? And so my dad and the family decided we're going to base off of protecting, you know, the-- - Her mental health. - Her mental health, and her just her physical health in general, we're not going to, you know, tell her. But my mom, she was super Buddhist at that time, and she believed in telling the truth. She believed in karmic debt. She believed that if you lie to people, that you're putting that out there, and it's gonna come back to the family, if she comes and she asks me like i'm gonna tell her and my dad was like what the hell no and she goes then you better keep her away from me straight up was like gangster with it she's like you guys are wrong for doing that that's horrible blah blah anyways comes a time where my granny does come from korea comes in and stays at the place with timeout you also left out the part where the grandma would always ask about her oh yeah yeah she comes yeah that's what i'm getting to she comes and she you know stays at the house and she starts asking what's you know oh his name is holy holy why is holy like not seeing me did i do something wrong you know they're saying for two years because they were lying that he was in the army so in korea you're mandatory to like once you hit 18 you have to go to the draft right it's a mandatory draft for like two years or whatever it was like nearing the end of it or already passed it and so she's like why hasn't he seen he and even when he was in the draft

like he didn't send me a letter like he would see me every day blah blah so my mom bro she just went gangster she goes she got so mad and she goes you know what do you want to know where holy is and why he hasn't sent you letters and why he hasn't visited you and she's like why and my mom does it on the slide she goes because he's where your husband is right and her husband's dead obviously so she said it in that way and my mom says she let out my granny let out this whale like oh i started crying and then i think like five or six months later she passed away from this and so the whole family blamed her they said she passed away from medical complications but she stopped eating she literally i i believe till this day died of a broken heart straight up you know and so from then on the beatings got way crazier to my mom my dad would beat the hell out of her and then the whole family basically hated her right that's just what it was that's the truth and so my mom for the longest time was like i remember she would be like forget them i told the truth they're just mad that i told the truth but when my mom received salvation she learned about gaining people's souls she learned about gaining people's hearts and at the end of it she sat there and she was like you know what i was completely wrong and i remember my mom crying like having a god that remorse she gave this testimony in front of the Chinese church and i remember listening and she was saying that the whole time i was protecting my image of being a good person and a self-righteous person that i didn't know that it completely ruined the whole bloodline basically where they don't listen to god and actually when they found out that my mom was a christian they were like typical so you ruin everyone's life you lived however you wanted you ruined our lives and now you're like forgive me because i'm forgiven like they had that energy because i literally went to korea last year and it was the same energy one of my aunties was like from my dad's side was like hey you know i could sense that they didn't really care about me it was just this feeling of like dang johnny's here but they're just like oh you're good oh good welcome to korea it wasn't like where they would throw a whole thing for everyone else they would love on you they would buy you gifts it would give you stuff it was none of that it was just like oh that's that's her child basically right it was that energy so when i get there i was i was thankful because one of the aunties kept the rule with me she goes how's your mom doing oh she's good is she's still christian yeah she is oh okay so it wasn't a phase like she leaked that out and she's like you know johnny are you are you into all that stuff is that what you're famous for and i was like yeah technically she goes you know what it's really nice that you found faith and your mom found faith and that's beautiful you know i

think everyone needs some kind of a spiritual guide in spiritual leading whether it's you know pusa which is buddha or whether it's you know god but you know there are things that we have to be accountable for in terms of our actions i hope you can remember that and she said that to me but i could tell that it was really for my mom it was like yeah you you could be christian all you want but and jesus maybe forget for gave you but we don't forgive you for what it is basically we still remember maybe jesus forgot your sins but we still remember what happened you took our mom from us basically and so in that position you know i i believe that my mom was wrong straight up because she said it herself too because when i went there i couldn't even talk about god i went there with the with the angle of like maybe she'll they'll look at me and be like dang johnny went to prison he did all this stuff but i couldn't even talk about god they literally didn't even let me they didn't even want to have a conversation with me they just like it was just sad you know and i mean if you believe in christ you believe that you need to have a personal relationship with god they're not They're never gonna have that and it was sold she could have not have done that. And she and and how I thought about it. And she thought about it to this from my mom's own mouth is dang. Imagine if I if I had salvation those years, I would have never said that. I would have withheld that. And they would have looked at me like, you know what? Sandy's a solid one. Like she she kept it up with us and they would have opened their hard to her. And she might have been able to, we don't know, but at least it would have been better than what what the situation is now where she could preach the gospel to them. And so it's difficult to answer that when it comes to the gospel center things, because for anything else, you shouldn't lie. But when you look at 2 Corinthians chapter 6, verse 8 to 9, Paul literally says deceivers yet true. And he says in 1 Corinthians 9 22, I will be all things to all men so that I can save some of them. So he would fit any mold in order to like save people, right? Because he that's what's most important. Would you rather be right and then have that soul go to hell or be wrong and then win that soul for them to get to heaven? This is the this is the balance that we have. And so a lot of times I just I also was like a solid person. I told the truth. So when I would see certain pastors not tell the person that I'm like, he has a high heart. Why aren't you telling him? And then I would then now being a minister and pastor, I understand. Oh my gosh, there are certain things that they're not ready for. It's not that we don't want to tell the truth. It's if I tell it to you, it's over for you, basically. And so this is where it's it's difficult. That's

why I asked the question. Does this guy doing something like gospel centered? If it's just a fatness pockets, that's different. Obviously, I don't think he should do that. And if he apologized, even if he did do that, I think it's okay, we can accept people's apologies, right? If they're genuinely sorry, I do disagree with him being exposed and then saying that obviously that that kind of seems performative. But at the end of the day, like, if I was him, I would have probably just led with that. Like, hey, guys, like, this is just who I am. You know, yeah, I'm big ugly, but this is how you become happy even if you're big ugly. Like, who cares, right? God made me this where somebody, you know, I was born this way. I can't change that. And I'm not going to allow people to affect my or dictate my program or my mood. That would have been better. But then when it comes to the gospel, I know a lot of people who close are hard to our church because of this. They came and they're just like, why are you not telling my husband like, why are you saying I'm wrong? And you don't tell my husband because your husband just came to faith or they're not even in faith. And so we will literally side sometimes. I've seen this happen where we'll side with the person who's not saved because we know this person is saved. So we'll kind of like to gain the heart of that person, right? And people will say that's manipulation. You shouldn't do that. But the thing is, okay, if we don't do that, but you also want them to receive salvation, like how do we do that at the end of the day, right? It's not a manipulation. It is literally to gain souls. And it's also not like you just take their side blindly forever. It's like, hey, we see your side. It's more of like, um, what's that word? Like, uh, just accept them for who they are. And then you reveal to them later. Yeah. Hey, I was doing that. So you can really see what this is about, right? It's not like. In our thing, I've done that to you, Jeremy, like in the beginning when you're like, you ask certain things and I'm like, he's not ready. You're not ready to hear it, right? I was ready. Did you feel like I was always ready? Stop. I'm being serious. Yeah. People are going to read. Look at this. Yeah. Honestly. So what did you feel about that when I would do that to you? To be honest, I didn't notice, but I was like, what I noticed was, oh, this guy answers all my questions. Yeah. It's very nice. Yeah. Yeah. And then you weren't so nice. I'm kidding. You've always been, you've always been nice. You've always been nice. But it was more so like, wow, this guy's very patient. And I didn't notice my hardheadedness.

I realized that like now looking back, it was like, you just kind of held your tongue and you're like, okay. Yeah. Yeah, I could see you. You'd be like, yeah, I could see your point of view. Yeah. Have you thought about it this way too? Or back now? But what about this? What about this? You'd be like, okay, well, what about you'd like answer my questions endlessly. Yeah. But never being like, bro, question one was completely off because you're selfish. Yeah. If I said that, you would have been like, what? Jack it. Yeah. Because we said something that challenged just one thing, which was what? Don't do anything. You literally started to like implode. But then what does that mean? Like, but practically speaking, but then don't do anything. Like, I don't understand. He was getting like, you're getting there. Yes, you did your role. That's not I'm not lying. You didn't do that. It was maybe like, yeah, but what about it? I bet it was that. I bet it was that too. But basically, guys, like gaining a soul is the most important thing. I'm not saying blatantly lie to people, but you have to discern if a person is ready for that truth, tell them if they're not, even if it's true, you shouldn't say it. You should sit there and go, okay, maybe let me withhold that for a second. You know, now obviously that some of you guys will then think, okay, well, how do I discern? That's why you have to read the Bible. That's why you have and learn what it means to actually read a heart posture. - You have to ask pastors, not people. - Yeah, sorry, pastors, different P's, right? Ask pastors and be like, okay, because what we're gonna do is we don't judge you based off of our lens or our experience. We look at you through the lens of the gospel, right? And so we're like, okay, is this person ready? They're not ready for it, right? Like Jeremy would come to me with a lot of his friends and be like, what do I do? And in the foundation of his heart, it was, he was moving from, that's my homie, I wanna help them, and that also betters the business.

But I couldn't tell him that, bro, you're not their savior 'cause you're not. And when I would say, no, they just need to come to that conclusion and he would then follow, but how do I make them come to the conclusion? How do I tell him, bro, you can't, you can't even make yourself come to a certain conclusion. How can you do that? And if I said that in those moments, I would have lost Jeremy 100%, it would have been like, oh, well, I guess he's not right. But now, when I'm being more open with everything, he's able to see it from the side of like, I get why you're doing it. And now he's experiencing that too, where he has people come to him and he's like holding his tongue because he knows I can't say that right now 'cause that person's not ready for it. That is not a form of an impulation, that's maturity. To sit there and go, wow, that person, he's not gonna be able to handle this. So it's better that I don't say it because I'll ruin everything. - You know what's funny too? All those, even those people in those situations, when they just, when I'm just kind of nice to them and I hold my tongue, even though I wanna be blind. - They open up more. - They open up more and then they're more willing to come to church and then they come

to the same realization I have to go. Oh, I was like that. It's so weird. It's just like, it's like science. Just like, okay, except for certain people, it's very impossible for them to really come to the end of their self. - Six, six, seven. - But certain people out there, you know, it could be anybody out there, but like, a lot of people. - A lot of idiots, yes. - They are. - So people have to come to the end of themselves. Trust me guys, James Sexton says something that I think is such a banger. He said, I know that if I put what I really am out there, like all of my thoughts and who I am inside, nobody would love me. I was like, it's this heart posture of like, it's so true. And all of you guys have to recognize that, right? When it comes to like, oh, this guy's lying, that guy's lying, you have to realize that we're all liars in front of God. Though if you're betrayed, think about it from this perspective. That person betrayed me. I don't forgive them. How many times did you genuinely betray God? How many times have you promised God to do something

and then broke that promise, which is a lie? I mean, how many times do you do that? That's how you're able to forgive. That's how I was able to forgive my dad. I sat there and I was like, dang, I'm literally just like my dad, maybe not to my dad or to anyone else, but definitely to God. And that levels a playing field, right? Naturally, the byproduct of that would be empathy and compassion and go, dang, I'm so glad. I remember thinking, I'm so glad God didn't strike down my dad. All the times I wanted my dad to die, seriously, and I'm shame to say this, but it's true. I'm so glad God didn't listen, because if he smites down my dad, then he has to smite me down too. He has to knock me off too, 'cause we're literally the same in front of God. So I think people have to understand instead of all this pitchfork mentality, we have to realize like, dang, we're literally the same, maybe not horizontally, but vertically, right? And so that takes the realization that Jeremy had to go through, I had to go through, all of us had to go through, where it's like, we're literally the same. Like there's nothing worse, maybe in my opinion, in my standard, but if God says let all men be liars, Romans 3-4, and only let God be true, who are we to say, no, it's me and God, that's true.

Everyone else is a liar, like, no, we're all literally liars. We lie and we don't even recognize it. It takes that type of level two to reach where it's like, dang, I'm literally like, I don't got it like that. And those people tend to change, they hold their tongue, they listen better, they don't ridicule as much, they don't judge as much, because they know like, I am the same in front of God. I'm not the same outwardly, but inwardly and spiritually, I am the same. And it just levels the playing field. That's why I don't mind talking to certain people who are pathological liars. I don't mind if people were like, would you go do a sit down with Jehovah's Witnesses or people who blatantly just mess up? I don't even see them as blatantly trying to spread false doctrine. I see it as, oh, they're misguided. How many times was I misguided? And if someone doesn't tell me and they just judge me, how the hell am I ever supposed to change? Like, why can't we have that open dialogue there's probably a real human reasoning behind why they're acting the way that they act and why they follow a cult or whatever people say. There is a reason behind it. And if I don't know it, either shut your mouth or go and find out why they're doing it. Most people like to open their mouth and not find out and just ridicule people. That's not the first and foremost, that's not Christ like number one. Number two, like Jesus also held this tongue. So is he a liar? When Pontus Pilate asked him, he could have said, I am the son of God, but he didn't because he knew Pontus Pilate

wasn't ready to hear that. And he was he was like coming to that realization, but he wasn't able to. And then King Harrod, Jesus is a real person. By our standard, he should have performed the miracles because it was a king. And if Jesus respects the authority and tells us to respect the authorities, he should have listened to King Harrod when King Harrod said, please perform a miracle. But he knew King Harrod's heart only wanted the miracles. So he kept quiet. He's like, are you the guy that performs miracles? He didn't say anything, right? He should have if he's Jesus all knowing all good and he gives an answer to everybody and he's loving and he should save people. Why didn't he sit there and save him? Because he knew whatever he would have said, King Harrod wouldn't have listened because he's only focused on the miracle. So in the same way, we take that as pastors, as Christians, we should take that. What is this? Is this person ready for it? And by faith, if they're ready for it, we can say it by faith. If they're not, we also hold our tongue because we have to be slow to speak. We have to discern. We have to be able to see is this person ready for it? Because the right truth at the wrong time can be devastating, devastating to a person. And people don't realize that. And for the viewers, you guys know, because every time I teach a lesson, they're always like, dang, Johnny, I can think about four, five, six times that I did that where I'm like, why did I say that just to look good, just to really look? And I didn't even realize I was trying to exalt myself. So I genuinely don't tell the truth to people who are not ready for the truth. In fact, that's going to ruin people. And when you're ready, then I'll let you know, right? Because I've done that too, where people have come to me, I have to share this with you guys, where they go, just tell me the truth. And I'm like, I'm going to show you, are you sure? And I'll let them know. And they literally hate me after that. They hate my guts after that. And I tell them, have I become your enemy because I tell you the truth, right? That's what Paul says. And I learned from Paul that there's a lot of people that he didn't speak to, where he just kept preaching the gospel and people came to him. Hey, what about when you stone Stephen? Hey, what about when you were doing this, this and this? He was like, I'm not going to listen to you. I'm just going to preach the gospel because that's how you're supposed to move. He could have obliterated them. He wrote 14 epistles. He could have taught them their own doctrine, but he chose to go, they're not even ready for it. We don't give Pearl to swine, essentially, meaning if a person is not ready to hear it, why would we give them something valuable? If anything, they would just treat it invaluable. And that's how it is. Dang, bars. And that wraps up this episode, guys. I hope you guys

found it fruitful. And just like we do on every episode, we end with the prayer. So let us bow our heads and let us pray. Father God, again, thank you so much for giving us this unlearned wisdom, Lord, to be able to apply our grace to be able to apply the lessons that you taught us through the grace to be able to not only preach the gospel, but to overcome bad habits. A lot of us are struggling with bad habits and expectations of ourselves. We're looking on the outward when you ask us to look inward. And Father God, even when we look inward, we cannot see whether or not we have a good or a bad habit. So I asked Father God that if this episode created a little bit more resistance for people in their hearts in terms of being calloused or just created more questions that you please be with them in the Holy Spirit to answer their questions. I know that you're always praying for us and giving us intercession through Jesus and the Holy Spirit, Lord, and for that, we're so thankful. But if there's anyone who's struggling, please allow them to also break free from that, Lord, that we can't do anything, that whether we have a good or bad habit, you've allowed it so that you can show your glory through it, Lord. Allow us to really rest in that heart posture, rest, and be able to move with your provision, Lord. Thank you, Father God. We leave everything in your hands. And in Jesus' name, we pray. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. Like, comment, and subscribe. Like, comment, and subscribe. Peace. And listen to the audio See you later.