Holy Disruption With Heather Schott | Too Easy, Too Dangerous: The Truth About P•rn

Two men together naked. Oh, that's okay. Two guys with one girl. That's okay. It's a video. It's 4k. You're shattering love, appreciation of women. It's all blown up in seconds. It was everybody does it. All men. This is normal. A senior pastor was normalizing pornography. Pornhub says the quiet part out loud. He said we won't be able to serve Texas because if we can't give safe porn to children, then we don't feel responsibly that we can service Texas. This is what they said. All social media sites. Let me break the news to you. Our porn sites, right? Because they house pornography. We cannot rest until every single social media company, every single website. I don't care if you have 1% pornography. You should be liable for children accessing that content based upon your action. If the church would set their men and women free of pornography through the power of the Holy Spirit, then we would see reformation in culture. We lack personal conviction. I can't be convicted for you. I can't lose weight for you. I can't gain muscle for you. I can't be convicted for you. In America, we pray for revival, revival. You cannot have revival without repentance. You can't have repentance without conviction. Hey, everybody. Welcome to Holy Disruption Podcast. I'm your host, Heather Schott. I have two incredible guests with me today. Nate Schatzlein, my co-host, Texas state rep, founder of For Liberty and Justice. Come on, lighten things on fire in Texas. We are just getting started. This podcast is amazing. Just getting to be a part of it, this is truly disrupting things. It's hitting the fact that everything we're doing is not political. It is in fact spiritual. Yes, it is. I'm excited. We are in a spiritual battle. Then I have Yaqub Boyens, an incredible reformer abolitionist of our time. You lead Yaqub Boyen Ministries. It's an anti-human trafficking organization led by the Holy Spirit, my very favorite part. You are just doing incredible work in the anti-human trafficking realm. It's an honor to know you. It's an honor to lead with you. The Justice Reforms now partnered with your guys' ministry. It's been a joy to know you and work with you. It's an honor to work with you. It's an honor to be in the room. I celebrate what God is doing in you and through you, the Justice Reform, Justice Residence. It's good to be with Pastor Representative Nate Jackson. Yes. Also pastor of Mercy Culture. New development. I was here. It was a blessing to be here for that ordination. It's such a blessing to be here. I want to thank you for tackling the tough

stuff. Yes. You do not buckle. Woman of God. Truth or nothing. If I perish, I perish. If I perish, I perish. Other than just saying this is a woman of God, the second best thing I can say about Heather Schott is she's going to fight. She is going to step into the dark spaces and watch God bring salt and light. It's a blessing. Thank you for saying that. I truly believe we are in an Elijah, John the Baptist hour, the Esther hour. Elijah said, choose this day whom you're going to serve to the prophets of Baal. John the Baptist, his message was repentance. Turn back. Jesus is here. Repent for your sin. Make the crooked way straight. One of the greatest reformers. Esther, as you just said, it was if I perish, I perish. I believe it's time that the body of Christ, that Christians need courage and not just need it, but need to walk in courage. I think everybody is looking for a pastor, a spiritual leader, or a political leader to do it for them. In the end times, we know an army is being equipped and is being raised up and it's time. It's time now for the body of Christ as an army to get its courage and authority back. Make the crooked way straight and prepare the way of the Lord. Thank you for the statements you made towards me, but I feel like it's a fire shot up in my bones where it's like the truth is there and I can't not. I'm talking to two other reformers in the room that completely understand that feeling of that truth that has to come out because it's the spirit of living God that's saying now is the time to make the crooked way straight. I think one of those crooked ways that I want to talk about today is this issue of pornography. It's massive. Landon and I, we spent 15 years in mega ministries, leading and pastoring, and I think more pastors and leaders were struggling with pornography, having affairs, sexual immorality. And so, of course, if the head is struggling with that and there's no repentance, it's going down all the way throughout the entire body of Christ. We were actually at one mega church that we ended up getting fired. We were fired by a few. That's fine. What an honor. What an honor. I didn't feel like it at the time, but now I know. It's a reassignment. It was an honor. That's right. And we were confronting the senior pastor and this issue of pornography came up. And it was, everybody does it, all men, this is normal. A senior pastor was normalizing pornography. And now we see, I mean, 10-year-olds, it's the norm. We have social media, they scroll, it's in front of their face, it's in nudity in almost every single movie, but it is the demoralizing of our brains taking a sound mind to make it a debased mind. And so I wanted to bring the two of you because Bill was just passed in Texas, which is incredible. But first, I want to start off with Yacu because you released a film

last year called Sex Nation. And it is really the breaking down of what pornography does to a young person's brain and mind that I think so many people are unaware of. Would you talk about that? Yeah, thank you. I want people to understand we're talking about things that are physical, they're metaphysical, they're emotional, spiritual, they are scientific, real science, not Fauci science, real science, chemistry in the body, cause and reaction, cause and effect, all these things. God is the author and the finisher of all of us. He holds it in the palm of His hand. Anything you do in or to a human being has an effect. Brain chemistry is a real thing. God decided that we will go through adolescence between 12 and 14. There are outliers, 9, 15, but there's a time and a place for everything, says the Lord. When you accelerate that timeline, you cause what's called a cytostorm in a chemical level, scientifically in a child's brain, premature to their understanding of the world, their history, their experience, context, the ability to read. You're activating a nuclear reactor designed by God called sex. I believe sex is the most powerful weapon on earth to bring a husband and a wife together to drive evil out of the house. Satan says, you're right. It's the most powerful weapon on earth. So it's not that it's always about sex and it starts with sex. It starts with emotional need. And if you really understand emotional brokenness in our society, Gen Z lives on emotion. They live on emotional brokenness. Satan looks at emotional desire and he goes, that's a foothold I can use to move you to self-satisfying, self-identifying, self-stimulation. And the greatest tool for that is pornography. So the second a child is introduced to pornography, you are turning on a mechanism. God keeps dormant until puberty, until the parent is ready for the child, until the child has enough life experience to go through that cycle. When you turn that on at age eight, you can never turn it off either. There's no off button. The child now has chemicals. This is not just a thought pattern. There's actual hormones that are now produced in the body by demand because the brain tells the body what to produce. The brain now says, I need these hormones. It's sex hormones is now produced in the eight-year-old that was dormant. My four-year-old don't even notice girls. It's oblivious to him. Unless you tell him he can pick his gender. Unless you take him to a drag show for kids. Unless you show him porn. What happens? Why all of a sudden does he want to talk? The brain is turned on. The sex hormones are producing. He's seeing through different eyes now. It's the Garden of Eden. Didn't know they were naked. And then all of a sudden, wait, we're naked. What just happened? It is diabolical by definition of the word because you can't get it back.

That child now that is made by God inquisitive, is made to experiment, that Superman today and Paw Patrol tomorrow is now also considering transgender, considering maybe I'm a boy or a girl. You now have chemicals in the brain that's activated. Neuropathways are alive. He's now thinking and living life from when he wakes up through a sexual lens. Which most married husbands struggle with. But he's eight. He's ten. The predator online then says, I can work with that. I can speak into that. Intro into trafficking. This is not even ethereal. This is chemical reaction in the body. What that does to the emotions, it wrecks the child. The second you see porn, this is all of us, your first introduction to sex imprints you. So when that boy, by the way, and I'll close this section with this. We're not talking about Pamela Anderson in a centerfold on a motorcycle in Playboy magazine with her top off. We're talking about the introduction to sex at age eight is the average to boys. It's gang rape. It's video. It's 4K. It is in his face. It's cameras all in places they shouldn't be. His introduction to the value of a woman shattered. Two men together naked. Oh, that's OK. Two guys with one girl. That's OK. Oh, this is love. She likes it. She wants it. That's how I treat women. You're shattering love, unconditional love, consent, appreciation of women. It's all blown up in seconds. And the reality is the statistics are on our side, not on the pornographic industry side. Right now it's 60, 62 percent of 11 to 13 year olds that have seen pornographic content did so get this unintentionally. And so we're not talking about some effort from a child. No, no, not searching for no. And the problem is, is that currently the average age of owning a smartphone in the United States of America is 11 years old. At 11 years old, you're giving access to the world of sexual violence, giving access to the world of rape, giving access to exactly what you're saying. In fact, I believe it's 90 percent of pornographic content on the Internet today has physical or verbal aggression in it. So this isn't like saying, well, every once in a while.

No, chances are that 11 to 13 year old, that eight year old who accesses pornography and it opens up this world that you're talking about instantly is normalizing sexual violence. That is normal. And you're right. They frame it in a way to make it look like this is the way it's supposed to be. Correct. Parents, are you listening right now? Because when they when when you talk about an 11 year old that has a phone, they think kids come home. Well, so-and-so has a phone and so-and-so has a phone. Yeah. And I get a phone, too. And then the parent is like, yeah, but then if I'm too hard, then I have a child that just rebels against me. No, no, no. You just gave them the tool to rebellion. You might as well have been even that moment bringing the apple saying, let's partner with Satan. And I'm going to tell parents, I'm just going to be real. I'm not here to be liked. OK, you are called to be your child's parent, not their friend. I don't care if they like you. Yes. All right. The Lord says you don't love that child if you don't discipline that child. And discipline at times mean you're not able to know what's best for you at 11. I do as a parent. You're not getting that phone. Hey, we're so grateful you're listening to the podcast. We want to take a short break before we get back into the conversation to tell you a little bit about one of our nonprofits and one of our house visions for liberty and justice. Our vision at For Liberty and Justice is to mobilize the church, wake up the city and take a stand for liberty and justice. And we want you to get involved. You can do that by going to ForLibertyAndJustice.us. If you're interested in running for office and reforming government, we have what's called Campaign University. You can sign up for at your own pace and learn how to do so. Or you can help us by launching a county chapter in your county to mobilize the church and empower godly men and women to get civically engaged today. Now back to the podcast. Listen, Heather, I'll be I'll be talking to Jason Citron next week. Jason Citron is the founder of Discord. Discord is the number one trafficking platform of the face of the earth. Here's a dilemma Discord faces. If Discord was to do the right thing, to do a simple thing called age verification on Discord, because you've got 45-year-old men playing with your children watching, playing Fortnite, playing Mario Kart.

You've got 45-year-old guys today, all the parents. You better get ice through your veins at the moment. And you're right. They're kids games. They're kids games. They're not adult games. No, no. We're talking Mario Kart. Mario Kart. Okay. Roblox. Roblox is riddled. Roblox has a game called Public Swimming Pool. You don't want to know what happens at Public Swimming Pool. You've got 45-year-old guys avatar raping a 12-year-old avatar, having sexual gross conversation. You can't even publish these conversations, right? That's on Discord. If he was to age verify tomorrow, he would lose $3.8 billion of EBITDA value. That's why Zuckerberg and Citron and these guys, their market cap would plummet because they're allowing 45-year-olds to play. And this is in the church. Percept it by God's grace. I get a phone call one morning, but an unidentified number guy goes check your email. Click. I Watch my email it comes in from an undisclosed email and it is a memo an internal memo and a Pornhub board meeting That is sent to me with a deck that I have In the deck and like page 72 or 74 they discuss the church There's a memo there that Pornhub has done a 24-month investigation and they've noticed that Christian young Christian men, Gen Z-ers, spent more time in the gym Working out on their temple. They even use the word temple, right? Wow, by faith. That's crazy, right? Then Gen X did They realized that it correlates with the types of videos Christian young men watch on YouTube of people working out in gyms They realized with retina scan that the boys are attracted more to the girls working out in Tight outfits in the gym the girls squatting in the video shooting from behind So Pornhub made a decision to launch a new porn category called gym porn for the Christian young men Yeah to target the Christian young man to lead him with a series of videos That's not pornographic, but it's explicit Then it leads him to what's called gym porn and gym porn is literally a guy and a girl in the gym And it turns from a workout scene into a full-blown porn scene on gym equipment Christian boys are

flocking to it But they by happenstance Stumble into it. Yeah, that's the intentionality of Pornhub on how they profile the church Yes, totally and I think and Before we even get into that because I think it's so vitally important to understand the targeting because we experienced that you worked heavily your Office worked heavily with us passing the bill that passed in the Texas House Which full disclosure is a first step not a final step and we'll get into that But going back to even the parents and the parents wanting to be liked and the parents wanting the acceptance of their child I just want to encourage every parent watching on here Do you want the acceptance of your 11 year old child or do you want the acceptance of your grandchild's father or mother? Because ultimately you are going to have a friendship with that father or mother that will one day be a father and mother Currently your child based upon how you protect them right now. Yes I'm never I've never in the history of my life in youth ministry and church ministry and in Legislation I have never had one adult come to me and say oh I have trauma Because my parents wouldn't let me attend a sleepover. I have trauma because my parents wouldn't give me a smartphone Yeah, I have trauma because my parents right didn't allow me to have a TV in my bedroom Yes, this is a big deal that we have to recognize No, it's the trauma from allowing them to go do those things of what happened at those things that are that's trauma for them later There's a direct correlation with pleasing the want of your child to having no relationship with them as an adult. Yeah, so Go ahead. Please. I was just gonna say as we're speaking to parents right now. What are we saying? We're saying wake up It's time to wake up Nobody else is going to raise your child the way that you desire for them to be raised Nobody else is going to do it But you in fact the culture and world would love they believe they should get to raise your child And the way they're going to raise your child is in complete perversion and immorality They have strategy as you are listening to these men. They have been Strategizing for longer than you have been alive. Yes, and how to take your child and Position them for sexual immorality and to be a part of this evil agenda Truly an evil agenda the LGBTQ

Agenda, it's not about just I want to I want to sleep with who I want to sleep with They are targeting our children and the pornography everything that is being put in front of them It is the gateway drug. So to speak. Yep into trafficking into this LG All the letters that are being edited every single day, you know into taking our children and Brainwashing them that this movement and this level of perversion is Normal Heather two kingdoms rise at the same time says scripture. Okay One will prevail the kingdom of God. We have to understand the adversary. I asked God I said God why children? Why children? Well, I get it women adult women and men I because we risk we rescued a 52 year old trafficked by her husband. I mean, age, gender, race, socioeconomic status, you know, it doesn't matter. But why children? And this is four o'clock in the morning and God hits me with this wave and God says, I want you to see why. And it's a battle of potential. And I want you to hear what God said to me. He said, Yaku, when I cast Lucifer, let's call him by name, when I cast Lucifer out of heaven with a third of the angels, he knows that the redemption of my son, Jesus Christ, the blood of my son does not cover him. He can never return. There is a hatred that we can't fathom for your child from Satan. Why? Because even if your child stumbles, even if your child falls, even if your child departs like the prodigal son and go eat with the swine, when your child decides to return to the Lord, there'll be a robe and a ring and your child will be adopted into the kingdom of heaven. And Satan can never go back. Yeah, he can never. Christ did not die for Lucifer. He did not cover Lucifer. And there's a hatred for the offspring enmity with God. There's a hatred that our sons and daughters could choose Jesus and be adopted back to the table, which Lucifer once sat at. This is a war. It is the earlier, the better. Why do you think we're bartering and brokering, whether it's 12 weeks, 16 weeks for life? And when does a life start? The earlier, the better. The earlier Satan can corrupt, the better. And the second a parent abdicates their responsibility to God, to Stuart being a parent, well, you are for forfeiting him to Satan. Well, and I want to add on to that, too. The reality is, I really feel that we have this responsibility to reform as the church. The problem is we cannot reform what we've normalized in our own life and in our own home. And so right now, it's what you're saying about the pastor that you spoke with that says, oh, come on, everyone's doing it. The thing is, is that why we see so many legislators falling and why we see so many legislators failing to do what is right on this particular issue, why we see so many pastors silent, why we see so many moms and dads

not in the fight with us is because they are personally normalizing it in private. You know, in Luke chapter four, it talks about Jesus who is confronting the Pharisees, the true reformer, right, where he is literally kicking up dirt inside this temple and saying this isn't how it's not business as usual. The Redeemer has arrived and they push him to the edge of Mount Precipice. And the issue with being pushed to the edge of Mount Precipice is he had no influence in this moment. Our pastor talks about the difference between influence and authority all the time. It's one of my favorite things that he's spoken on. And he had no influence with this crowd, but he had spiritual authority. The reason he had spiritual authority is because everything that that crowd was bound by, he was free from. And so it says that he, instead of being pushed to the edge of a cliff and pushed off, he walked through the crowd. One of the things I found was Mount Precipice overlooks the Jezreel Valley. Well, just in Judges chapter six, all of a sudden he meets Gideon hundreds of years before inside of a cistern and says, the Lord is with you, mighty warrior, go with the strength that you have. And then he says, tear down the Asherah pole so that you can free your people. It wasn't about strength. It was about reform your home. Yes. And you'll be able to free your people. Jesus was able to walk through the crowd because get this Mount Precipice as he's pushed to the edge, overlooks the Jezreel Valley where Gideon would free his people hundreds of years before. He's looking at the valley of freedom, of personal reformation, and recognizes, I have the spiritual authority to conquer this crowd because it's never been about influence. It's always been about authority. If the church would set their men and women free of pornography through the power of the Holy Spirit, then we would see reformation in culture. Nate, we pray in this nation, in America, we pray for revival, revival. You cannot have revival without repentance. Yes. You can't have repentance without conviction. And conviction is personal. I can't be convicted for you. I can't be convicted for you. I can't lose weight for you. I can't gain muscle for you. I can't, you know, and we lack personal conviction. Gen Z is the widest informed generation, but the shallowest. There's no core conviction. They can't defend a single topic for an hour. They don't know why they believe what they believe. Satan is playing ping pong with our society because we're following, as a nation, false gospel. Yes. We're following a false Jesus, and it's an antichrist that's going to look very attractive in all things and going to be very convincing, and we are seeing that today. How do you get a... pastor that... By the way, it goes through board approval, covering, blocking and tackling. How do

you get a pastor to get a former stripper to bring a poll out with a platform at a men's conference? You know how? Why? Here's why. Because in his personal life, he goes through what we call fractioning. And this is what's happening in the church. They'll preach the gospel, they'll preach the gospel of Jesus Christ, but it's not a true gospel because in their personal life, they fraction off their personal emotions, their personal needs and desires, and they justify sin in their own life. This is Ravi Zacharias. How do you have a four-decade ministry and all of a sudden, how did that happen? He fractioned off his personal life and justified sin. And what it does, Heather, is it changes his lens and the gospel he's preaching is not the true gospel. It's a false Jesus. It's a Jesus that does what the number one search word in 2023 was one word, and it was the word tolerance. We have allowed tolerance, not mercy and grace, which is Jesus's tolerance of Yakuza and Jesus said, I died for you. Tomorrow I give you mercy grace. We've brought tolerance into the gospel message when it comes to porn. Well, I mean, who does it harm? All guys do it. Well, is it 12 weeks of life? Is it? We are tolerating Satan in the gospel of Jesus Christ, and they're going to be eaten alive. We're tolerating, and we also know what is attracting them, because what you just shared with the poll on the platform and on the altar of God, we are aware of what is attracting people, so we get them to the presence of the Lord, but then we don't give them freedom from the very thing that we knew they're struggling with that attracted them. Yeah. I'm just sick and tired of churches. Well said. I'm sick and tired of churches, and I mean the big C church in America, watering down the gospel, thinking that it's going to bring in more people when in reality in the marketplace and in the legislator's world that I'm now existing in, there is a hunger and a thirst after righteousness that I've never seen before in my life. People want raw. They want real. They want real. Look, if they want entertainment, they'll go to the world. The devil does it better than the church does anyway. So the reality is, let's stop trying to attract people with the world's hand and start attracting with what we only have singularly, which is the power of the Holy Spirit. Look, people have said—the younger generation has said no to God because God has been presented as a historical figure and subject, and they're like, you know what? I've gone to years of school with history class. I don't want any more of that. They want something tangible and real. Hear us pastors and spiritual leaders that are listening right now. I was the drug addict, not just the drug addict, not just the alcoholic, but did every sin there ever was to do. And my mom dragged me to church on Sundays

that I fell asleep on her shoulder and that she would have to elbow me because it was sleep worthy. There was no presence. There was no power. There was no truth. God was not real. How do I go to church my entire life and not know that God can speak to you? Not know that God is alive. This generation, what you just said, they want something real. They want an encounter with God, and our altars are full of entertainment instead of the presence of the Lord. I'm going to preach now because we've gone to 45-minute services for all of our events and all of our functions, and we've removed the power and presence of the Lord that this generation, what you just said, it's what they're hungering and what they're thirsting for. They have entertainment everywhere. They don't need entertainment on Sundays. They need an encounter with the living God that's going to transform, renew their mind, and set them free from all of the bondage that they're walking in right now. And just to let everybody know, hopefully everybody is currently aware that a political party or a politician, they are not saving us. They are not saving our children. They are not saving our marriages. They are not saving our families. This means it is more important right now for the body of Christ to wake up and walk in the authority and the anointing that Christ died on the cross for us to walk in it and to bring his justice and freedom in the earth. And so with that saying, this new bill was just passed, which is incredible, and this is why we want righteous men and women in these seats that are fighting for bills like this to be passed. in the opening. It's not the end all. No. So I want you to share about this bill because it's great, but it doesn't fix everything. We can go from there. I've had so many extensive conversations about this bill and with your team as well. So I authored a bill called House Bill 3570, which was age verification for pornography. And you would be shocked at the amount of bipartisan support that it got because the messaging had to be direct. It had to be intentional. The reality is, is that both parties struggle with perversion. The Republican Party struggles with the perversion of power, of money, you name it. The Democratic Party struggles with the sexual perversion and allowing absolute debauchery

with our children. I mean, every, both parties are guilty of something. And the reality is, is I knew if we could, if we could show not just the effects on the brain with pornography, because most know that inside the legislature, if we could show the effects on the normalization of sexual violence and trafficking that occurs with pornography, then it would be a slam dunk case. And there's no way that anyone could deny signing on. And so that's what we did. And with that bill, we ended up getting, I believe it's almost 90 coauthors out of 150 legislators that came in all the way from the furthest left to the furthest right. But here's the discouraging part. And I'm not going to end it on the discouraging note, but the discouraging part to me was that the number one question was not, how does this help protect kids? It was not, is this enforceable? Which it is. It was not, hey, how's this going to affect us pushing the narrative further to take down the pornographic industry? That's the question we should be asking. The number one question is, ah, for everyone who wants to access pornography, is our ID going to be shared if we upload it? That's the question. By the way, that question wasn't asked by any Democrat, only Republicans. And Nate, it's a cop out. It's a justification. Again, here we come with the wanting to tolerate sin, finding how do I position this to say what I really want to say, but I don't really want to say it, is that the other opposition you found is, well, is this a First Amendment violation? Porn is a First Amendment right. It's not your right to abuse children. That's not what the founding fathers wrote the First Amendment, freedom of speech for

you to go publish your sexual preferences and place it in front of a child. And we're not just talking here about Pornhub. We're talking about every platform, the algorithms read. That bill was so significant, so timely, we now will go and bolster that bill. And the reality is we have to win that bill. So just for the record, that bill did not pass. So 3570 came to the floor. That's the one I authored, the one we had nearly 90 co-authors on. And it did not pass because the tech companies and the tech lobby came into my office. And they said, Nate, we love your bill. One problem, you have not included what they call one third language in it. And I said, okay, help me with this. They said in Louisiana, this bill passed and we were okay with it. We stood down because there was one third language in it. I said, explain that to me. They said one third language explains that if your website or your platform does not have over 33% of your content is not pornographic, as long as it's 32% or less is pornographic, then this doesn't apply to you. And I said, so we're okay with 32% porn being shown to children? It's called tolerance. And they said, well, no, what we're trying to do, Nate, is we have a lot of stakeholders that do not want to be sued if they own shares of Twitter or own shares of Instagram or own shares of YouTube or Facebook. And so in order for us to be on board with this bill, you're going to have to put in one third language because that makes it to where social media companies aren't liable, only pornographic companies. And I looked at them and I said, oh, you think I'm about pleasing the shareholders. I said, I don't care. I said, I would love for these social media companies to be held liable for showing porn to kids.

And he goes, well, that's going to be an issue with us. And I go, oh, I wasn't asking your permission. And you didn't get elected. Like you forgot the reasoning behind why I'm doing what I'm doing is to keep these images away from minors. And they said, well, Nate, how would we even implement that? I go, I'm glad you asked. I go, we're going to put a 45 day grace period for social media companies to get their act together. We're going to make it to where it's very accessible. The technology is already out there. Facebook uses it for marketing tools. Now they can use it to protect kids. And he looked at me and he goes, I want you to know that if you keep this language out, this third, one third language, we are going to oppose your bill. And I said, and I want you to know that if you oppose my bill, I will make sure you are the reason across Texas that children can still access pornography on social media sites. He got up and walked out. He walked in, dropped a card against it. And our chair of calendars walked out. over to me and said, hey, Nate, I know you have the momentum on this bill, but we have another bill that includes what's called one third language. It has no momentum, but we're going to pass that one because I think everyone behind me Satan. Yeah. Yeah. In the moment, which, by the way, Jesus said to Peter, OK, so let's not here. There's no we're not here to please men. We are here. We are here to please the Lord.

And it is it is zero, zero tolerance of sin in my own life. I have to hunt sin in my own life. It starts in my house. That little phrase that we're all going to hear. What did you do with what I gave you? That's right. From Jesus to me. I'll be face to face. That includes the Bible. What did I do with the Bible? What did I do with the word of God? How did I how did I wield that weapon? What did you do with the truth? What did you do with your first born, your second born? What did you do with your marriage? What did you do with your talents, time, treasure, your influence, your position as a rep, as a pastor, all pastors, you should write, you know, sit in holy reverence and go, dear God, am I stewarding what God has given? That's right. Well, as a parent, you don't need to look at Donald Trump. Donald Trump can't save your marriage. He can't stop pornography. Right. He can't stop sex trafficking. So get that out of your mind. You're abdicating your responsibility. Yes. For me and my house. And if enough for me and my house to serve the Lord, our community will be a community worthy of saying that's a godly community.

That's the house of mercy culture saying, hey, it's the presence of the Lord. It's encounters with the Lord, which produces conviction, which makes you sit and say, if I die, I die, buddy. But I'm not I'm not tolerating 33 percent of porn. By the way, the whole thing, the notion that, well, Pornhub is a porn site, all social media sites. All the social media sites I've introduced to you are porn sites. Right. All of them. That's right. Yeah. Because they house pornography. You're right. And that's why 1181 passes. Beautiful victory. Partial victory. And all of a sudden. And this is the big part, right, is Pornhub says the quiet part out loud. Right. This giant of the pornographic industry says the quiet part out loud. They said you can thank your legislators in Texas. We will not be able to serve the people of Texas serve. Right. Yes. You will not be able to serve Satan for the people of Texas. And he said, we won't be able to serve Texas because if we can't give safe porn to children, then we don't feel responsibly that we can service Texas. This is what they said. And so they said we will be removing our services from Texas. What a victory.

Massive. Bye bye. We never wanted you here. Yeah. Hear me. The battle has just begun. Yes. We cannot rest until every single social media company, every single Web site. I don't care if you have one percent pornography on there. You should be liable for children accessing that content based upon your actions. And we cannot rest until a new provision comes into this bill that includes social media companies. When we do, when society, when the world does studies, a double blind is where the placebo is always going to be your best, right? Double blind study. The people don't even know what the focus is. They're just in a study. So you're looking for common denominator. You're looking for the entry point. You're looking for what is the common denominator, whether it's cancer or whether it is a focus group, whether it is a brand that Pepsi wants to launch. You're looking for what's the common denominator, the only common denominator. And when we do these double blind focus groups, right? In the world of sexual immorality, right? The only common denominator in all of it is pornography. There's not a single pedophile we've ever arrested that has ever gone to jail that was not a porn addict. There's not a single pimp or trafficker on the face of the earth that does not use pornography to train the children how to perform the acts. We cannot get away from it.

Porn is the entry drug and it is a drug and it is served up. Yeah. You just said porn. You cannot serve children safe drug, porn, not safe. It's destructive, right? It's the entry drug. So to the person watching, if pornography is in your life, I'm not your judge. I'm not here to shame or condemn, but it is repent now. Turn from that wicked way. And when you meet, what happened to the woman at the well? When she had an encounter with the living Jesus Christ, she became an evangelist. Yes. Why? She ran. Yes. Ran to the town to go tell them, he knows my name. He knows who I am. When you have that encounter, you can be set free from porn. Absolutely. We see it every single day. Yeah. But you need an encounter with a man, Jesus Christ. And then continual encounters. Discipleship, continued encounters. Free from sexual immorality. I love that you brought up that one because she ran after her encounter to declare that she just had an encounter with Jesus, which is beautiful. It brings accountability. This is who I am now. They all knew her of her past.

And in a sense, she's fleeing back into that town and declaring who I am, the encounter I just had. Now you have to come and meet with him. She's testifying, but she's fleeing in this moment from her old lifestyle. And this is what the Bible is telling us when it says, flee from sexual immorality is stop playing games. Stop allowing the lies of the enemy to tell you, oh, it was just this one time or just a little bit of this. It was less of this time or it was when I was out of town and I hadn't been with my wife for a week and it was on this business trip. And all of that stuff, it is the compromise that starts here. But a year from now, how did, how am I living this broken life, divorce life, children hate me. I've lost it all. I'm oppressed. I'm depressed. And this is what we all know a lifestyle being addicted to pornography is going to cause. Yes, guaranteed. It's guaranteed that there is going to be a depression, oppression and massive consequences. We see people flooding out of the porn industry right now. Some that unfortunately didn't meet Jesus first and were suicidal or committed suicide. Because Satan wants to take them out. And others that are fleeing and saying, I was more oppressed. I was more depressed living in this lifestyle of what was promised freedom. And it's a false sense. Like you said, it's a false Jesus. It's a false sense of freedom because it's truly bondage. Yes. Heather, the fastest growing university in the United States is not an official title for licensed subsidized university, but it's a university.

And it's a university called SBU, Sugar Baby University. There's not a single Ivy League school, main campus, Texas A&M have, I think at the moment, of their girls are registered at SBU. SBU canvases on campus like OnlyFans puts up a booth on campus. The deans know about it. They support it. SBU is sold as a method to pay off student debt where you enroll TCU, Texas Christian University, SMU, Baylor, Brown, UCLA. If you go look at the list, Sugar Baby University, where they sign up and on weekends, they go have sexual encounters with men and they pay off their student debt. And it's normalized. It's like, well, this is culture now. And many of those girls... That's called sex slavery. It's human trafficking. It's sex slavery. You're selling it. And by the way, for the people with OnlyFans, if you sell pictures of your toes, you're selling yourself. You are trafficking yourself. And it starts with your toes and then you learn, well, oh, they give me more for my legs. And you give Satan a foothold. OnlyFans, the rate of depression, go look at the statistics of the rate of depression inside OnlyFans. The suicide rate is out of control. No relationships last, just like the LBGTQAI plus alphabet world. Relationships don't last because it's counterfeit. It's counterfeit. It's counterfeit.

It's counterfeit. It's counterfeit. One of the things my... Adrienne, my wife and I, when we were youth pastors, used to tell students constantly, we were in public schools, we'd do a class on this, is that the fine prints of our social media companies, even with OnlyFans, using Snapchat as an example, is that oftentimes, kids don't read the fine print. You're not gonna read those pages and pages. There's no way. They're just gonna click accept and move on. When that happens, what they don't understand is they're signing away every right that they could have to sue that company for using their private data. And so oftentimes, what would happen is that in the early days of Snapchat, these students, these kids, these minors would go on, they would send nude photos to a boyfriend, a girlfriend, whatever it is, and they would think, oh, it disappears. There is this lie that what goes into the metaverse, what goes into online will not come back to haunt you in the future. And the worst part about what we're seeing is not even the decline in our morality. It is not the decline in our mental health. It is the fact that even though you could receive freedom in the future, if we do not communicate well to these children, is that in the fine print, such as Snapchat, they say we reserve the right to sell and manipulate your photos to the highest bidder. So what they're finding now. is that pictures that students took 10 years ago when Snapchat came out are being sold and their bodies are being published on different faces, on pornographic websites right now, and they will be exploited until we can get ahold of that within a law. But the reality is that protecting your children

goes far beyond the now and into how it's gonna affect their next generation who has to see mom on a website when they're seven years old, eight years old on their smartphone. So parents, I think the first thing that comes to mind is first is don't bring pornography into your marriage. And I don't know why so many Christians think because they say whatever is brought to the marriage bed is holy. Okay, don't twist and distort scripture. And that's what the enemy does. He uses the word of God to try to hurt people or he adds, he takes away. The word of God says, and all the curses, if you do that will fall upon you. Look, you bring pornography into your marriage and into your marriage bed, there will be consequences because that is not purity. That is not holy, even if you are married. And so the very thing that you were both talking about earlier is this is why you will not have authority in your home. You will not have freedom or the conviction of the Holy Spirit in your home or even the leading and guiding of the Holy Spirit, which leads me to my next point is to have conversations with our children. And I think a lot of parents, unfortunately are afraid to have these conversations.

So they keep putting it off. I'm just gonna hope that this isn't the case. I'm gonna hope that they're not really dealing with this. And I don't know how to have the conversation. And so let's wait until they're 15. Too late. Too late. It's too late. You have to have these conversations when they're young. It's the right conversation at the right time. Jesus was a master at understanding, to these guys who don't know my father, I'm gonna talk about farming in a seed. Hey boys, what happens if I throw a seed on a rock? Dude, the birds eat it. That you can have these conversations with your children throughout their life. Your language changes on how you talk about. You're not gonna talk to a five-year-old about anal sex, but you're going to talk about the ways of God and purity and privacy and security. And by the way, on your previous comment, when a husband and a wife brings porn into their marriage, remember one thing, you are violating another person, another child of God's privacy by watching them in an exposed intimate moment. It's not even about you. You're violating someone else

by just watching them in that compromised position. A child of God that doesn't know better. So, oh, so the naked prostitute in the street, you've got free access because she made herself naked? Right. Excuse me. I think there's a scripture that says if you even look lustfully, you've already committed adultery in your heart. And it's better to pluck that eye out, to cut off that hand, than to fall into sin and be thrown into hell. And so, I mean, if that scripture isn't speaking to today and to pornography of the eye committing adultery by viewing it's what's happening when we are viewing pornography. With these conversations, I wanted to give a practical example for parents because I think parents are really, really struggling and parents need to step up. We feel for parents. It's crazy raising your children nowadays because you be just walking down the street and just a family day. And there could be two men sitting on a bench making out. You know, we were walking the other day in Dallas and a guy walks by full on guy buff, male haircut. Like he's not trying to be a girl, but he's got a pink backpack on, a crop top, booty shorts and glitter sandals on.

My five-year-old is like. They knew. He knew. I had to have a conversation with my five-year-old. This is inappropriate. Boys do not dress this way. My seven-year-old, he's now nine. I remember having conversations when shows were on the TV or commercial came on or something that was inappropriate. We would call out that behavior. So it did not sit in his mind that that was normal. That behavior that we quickly turned the channel, that is inappropriate. The way that that girl was dressed was inappropriate. That is not honoring God's daughters. And this is so beautiful because we're having a family movie night and it's actually a Christian movie, but it's on a surfer. And in his mind as a nine-year-old because the girls were in bathing suits, it was inappropriate. He said he did not want to watch it. He came and told me, he said sister's trying to turn on this movie right now and girls are in bathing suits, mom. It's inappropriate. Good. We haven't had the sex talk yet. Yes. But he knows the difference between what

and how he wants to be viewing women and honoring God's daughters. You're laying biblical foundation. Yes. Day to day with your children. The conversation changes. Most American parents, so at birth, right, you're the protector. Don't drop the baby. Don't forget to feed the baby. And you go from protector to cop. Most parents get stuck in cop because they don't cop well when it's time to cop. Police, no, you will not get a phone. Why? I don't need to justify it to you, here's the things, but you will not. And because they don't police when they're seven, they're policing 35 year olds. They're policing 45 year old grown men that are not men. So you go from protector to cop, from cop to coach. You should transition to coach in their teen years, to coach them. And then by the time they're 18, you become counselor. Very few parents ever get to have the trust from their child to be trusted counsel. They stay cop because they didn't cop when it was time to cop because they wanted to be friend. Yeah. So stop being afraid of being a parent. You're not the friend, you're the parent. Even when you're saying they never get to a counselor, it also speaks to the emotional maturity of the child that never actually reaches the point to where they can be counseled because they never learn impulse control. In fact, they say statistically that if you have access to pornography as a child, you stop emotionally growing at a certain level. And so you will never receive the maturity in the brain development stages that would lead to you having the impulse control to be a faithful husband, to be a good father, to be a good mother, to actually take responsibility, to go out and pursue careers that bring godly reformation. You won't be able to do it because you allowed your brain development to be stunted. You know, for every parent out there, the action step is simple. Do not give in to the wants of your child over the needs of your child. It's just so simple. It's just a simple no. Yes. It's a simple no. And don't compromise to where it got. Heather, sorry we're going along here, but I've got to say one thing to the moms out there because I know the dads get hammered. Over 60% of women in this country watch porn. Over 60%. 67% of female college students in American colleges watch porn. To the moms out there, don't bring porn into your life, and it's called word porn. The fantasy fiction Christian women are reading is pornographic.

Yes. Because the brain sees in pictures. You don't need to see a porn image. You read a word or a sentence that's sexual, the brain sees pictures. It converts. And many, many, many Christian women are falling. Which are putting these in our universities right now. They're falling into this trap of, I'm just reading fiction because they vicariously live through this character in this fictional novel, and they wish their husband versus having real biblical conversation around sex with their husband. Going to the Lord saying, what do you have for intimacy in my marriage? So just a caution for them. Satan is coming. Yes. Yes. It's not always blatant. I love the practical advice that's taking place right now because I want parents to wake up. Yes. I want mothers and fathers to wake up and to start parenting our children. It's the only hope for this next generation answering the call of God on our life. And so again, practically, Pornhub may not be allowed in Texas, but YouTube, your kids should not have just any access to watch whatever they want on YouTube because they can get that outside of a phone. They can get that on any type of a screen. There's TikTok, Fortnite, Netflix has series that is, I don't even know if you can call it soft porn. No, it's debauchery. And it's children that are dressed in these ways and shaking their rears in these ways. And that's not okay. Correct. It's not okay, parents. It's not okay for our 10-year-olds to be dressed in what looks like lingerie or swimsuits and shaking their booties around and then in front of adults. We are parading our children to be sexualized, and it's got to stop. I'm so grateful for the both of your voices in this hour, what you are both doing. It's an honor to lead and to know the both of you. I will just continue to champion you. Keep going. Keep going. Keep being loud. Keep being bold. I honor the both of you. Go and watch Sex Nation if you haven't watched it yet to get more information on what you were talking about at the beginning of this podcast. But thank you so much, everyone, for joining us on another episode of Holy Disruption Podcast. We'll see you again next time. Thank you for joining me on this episode of Holy Disruption, where we are awakening the Bride of Christ and calling the church back to holiness. If you'd like to continue with me on this journey, follow me on social at Heather Schott, and make sure to subscribe at Mercy Culture on YouTube and all podcast platforms.