Kiss The Fire: Choosing Purpose In The Middle of Pain | Ed Young & Shawn Johnson

In this episode of the C3 Leadership Podcast, Ed Young sits down with Pastor Shawn Johnson of ‪@redrockschurchYT‬ for an unfiltered conversation about the struggles we often hide behind the spotlight. Shawn shares openly about battling anxiety and panic attacks, carrying the pressure of leadership, and wrestling with feelings of unworthiness while still answering God’s call. Together, Ed and Shawn discuss betrayal in relationships, the “holy hangover” after Sundays, and the painful yet powerful tension of joy and suffering running side by side. This candid conversation isn’t just for pastors—it’s for anyone who’s ever felt the crushing weight of responsibility, the sting of betrayal, or the fight to hold onto hope. With honesty, humor, and hard-won wisdom, Shawn and Ed remind us that brokenness doesn’t disqualify you—it deepens your calling.