Not A Religion Of Peace (Ed Young Interviews Andrew and Noleen Sedra)

Social justice is not justice, justice is just justice, social justice is about virtue signalling and bitterness, you have to say sorry day, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, there's no forgiveness in it. Islam is a religion of power, the way to evangelise to Islam you need to crush it. The way women are treated changed because of Christianity, now you have a group of people who are atheists who see God as the problem and Satan as the liberator and now they think we need to liberate women from the church. You need to make a decision, are you going to deconstruct God or the world, are you going to deconstruct the Bible or you? So right now in Australia if I pray for a gay person, if I preach to a gay person one on one, as a pastor I would go to jail for five years. If you're born in America or Australia or UK, you were born in the midst of the sex revolution, the gay revolution, the homosex revolution and the feminist revolution, so you have by nature lost your capability of being strong and courageous to fight. I'm so thrilled to have Nolene and Andrew Sedra with us today, thank you, you have such great names, thank you, Andrew and Nolene, I'm lucky, Sedra. Thank the Lord, my mom didn't call me some weird Arab name, I was born in Egypt, most Egyptians have like Muslim names, Akram, Makram, I don't know, I'm a weird preacher, so I'm very grateful my mom named me an English name, yes, a biblical name. And you guys have been married for seven years, yeah, seven, seven, seven crazy years, seven, yeah, I know, the number of completion, 2019, two years in COVID lockdown, then we came out of COVID, church grew, but then the Muslim community shut down our church, we had to change buildings, it was like, we've been through a crazy journey, we've had a crazy but amazing seven years, yes, fun, it was great to have you guys here and you're doing some speaking and this Sunday, Andrew is speaking at Fellowship Church, we're thrilled about that, it is my privilege and honor to be covering all things, violent Islam, the pedophile Prophet Muhammad, excellent, the demon spirit of Allah, so we're going to be digging deep in all the worldview, I know most of you guys, there's a lot of Muslims in your area, just a fact, literally a few months ago, and we're on the way to the airport, Fort Worth, we accidentally took the wrong turn, yeah, and then we look on the side and there were hundreds

of Muslims praying on the street, we ended up in like an Uber parking lot, yeah, Uber parking lot, literally down the road, and there was hundreds and a moment of like, what the heck, am I in Egypt, where I was born, or am I in Texas, so Texas is kind of a battle ground for the Islamic invasion of the West, you got to have the most freedom, the best real estate, it's the best place to start a mega church, which means also it's the best place to start a mega mosque, so you're going to start to see the Muslim version of Pastor Ed Young, so, that's scary, so I think it's going to be pretty cool to kind of equip the church of how to have hope for the reason for the hope that you have, and when your Muslim friend comes and talks to you, how to actually win the argument, because they love to win arguments, so that you can actually save them. Yes, yes, that's great, you know, I read a couple of months ago, this stat shocked me, there are over 10,045 churches and ministries based in Dallas-Fort Worth, 10,000. That's incredible, isn't there what, like 11,000 in the whole of Australia? We have 11,000. Okay, here's my question though to both of you, because you guys have done such a great job at talking, I mean obviously as leaders, but talking about issues that so many people are fearful to talk about, especially pastors and leaders, it's funny, because I hear people say this sometimes, of course I disagree with this, but I want to hear what you have to say, you guys, okay, you know, I just want to preach the gospel, I just want to preach the Bible, I'm not, I'm not. Honestly I don't know what does that mean, there's all these big slogans. I don't either. It doesn't mean anything, it really means you want to be a coward, and don't want to disciple your people into the purpose of God, it's very important. The church mechanics and dynamics is changing across the West. We are no longer in Jerusalem, the city of peace, we are in Babylon, the city of war. And what I see at the moment, there's a generational shift. You kind of saw Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk was literally able to fabricate one of the greatest revival on a school, university, college campus, the smallest revival tent became the biggest tent.

Yes. So the problem we have in the church at the moment, is that people are married to their church model, that they're unwilling. I think to move to the next phase, where young people are asking the tough questions. They are. So like, is marriage Adam and Eve or Adam and Eve? Am I a woman or a man or a dog or a frog or a cat? I know I sound crazy, but it's not crazy. We have people in our church that in their private Christian school, literally have cat. Yeah, they have litter boxes in the restrooms at schools. Like Christian schools. Across America and across Australia. In Australia. So like, we have young people coming up to us asking us questions like, what do I do? What do I, like, how do I approach this? Because they've just put a litter box in the girl's restroom and I'm so uncomfortable. What do I do? There's now a young boy coming into my restroom at school in Australia. So I think the problem that we have been seeing, like we always refer to Billy Graham who quoted, he said, I hold the Bible in one hand and the newspaper in the other. And so the approach of ministry has always been, and it's very biblical, has always been, let's approach and disciple people

in what they're dealing with. Let's look at what culture is saying and the lies that culture is throwing at people. And then let's look at the Bible and scripture and see what does God say about this so we can correct thinking, so we can direct people's steps in the word of God. And I think we've believed this lie. And I think it's an infiltration of Marxism in the church, quite frankly, that you should just separate politics and separate. Which is Karl Marx, Karl Marx, my goal is to dethrone God and get rid of capitalism. Dethroning God out of politics, that is literally Marxist philosophy, but most pastors are unaware that they are accidental Christian Marxists. Yes, and they haven't been really discipling their congregation to the extent that they could. Like young people, like Andrew said, are asking very intense questions and questions that it's not politically correct to talk about in church on a Sunday. Like talking about homosexuality was maybe once upon a time something you spoke about so often, but there was a gap in the church, in the Western church, where people just didn't really address it. And anytime it did come up, it's like, well, let's just talk about how much Jesus loves them.

And it's like, yes, we know, we understand that, but young people are asking very intense questions that they're dealing with on a day-to-day basis. And that's because statistically, pre-1946, less than 1% of Americans were LGBTQ or gay. After 1946, more than 2% of baby boomers are LGBTQ or gay, more than 4% of Gen X are LGBTQ or gay, more than 10% of millennial, that's me, were very gay, are LGBTQ or gay, more than 20% of Gen Z are LGBTQ or gay. By the year 2050, everybody's gonna be gay, except you and me. But this is the reality, there has been, that is a statistical fact. Like there is a Bible, and there is a statistical reality, Gen Z are fundamentally struggling with their identity. And that's why, as a young church plant, we have to answer the question, am I going to serve the next generation, or am I gonna play churchianity? So what most nice, awesome, LED screen, big church, what they don't know, they are now the Catholic church. They're so irrelevant, they're answering the wrong questions, and I'm here to tell you, it's gonna get worse. There's bigger questions, Jews, antisemitism, Israel, Islam, Muhammad, every single topic that the church didn't dig in the last 30 years. Because it was controversial. Because it was controversial.

It's coming to the scene, and it's good time. We can actually now, disciple young people, see a revival and a reformation of the fear of God, yes. We've had people saved in our church, because there were so many issues, obviously, the world is facing, whether it's the COVID lockdown, the tyranny we saw in Australia, whether it's the whole LGBTQ stuff, people are like, where do I find answers? And we've had people that maybe grew up Catholic, never went to church, just went to a Catholic school, had ideas of God, but never had these questions, ex-gays, ex-trans, ex-Muslims. We've had people come to our church, because they're like, really, when I was looking for answers, you guys were the only church that was actually talking about these issues, and I wanna know what the Bible says, and I don't know how to research it. I don't know how to find out what God says about what transgenderism is, where it came from. And so they want a biblical worldview about things that a lot of churches weren't talking about. And so we've actually seen that. A lot. We're very grateful to the Lord that our church grew by hundreds in the last few months. We're very grateful that we're not getting a lot of church transfer.

We're mostly getting Muslims and gays and Catholics. We literally had the sermon I'm gonna preach on Sunday. It's a very aggressive sermon, because it dismantles Islamic ideology, that it's false, it's evil and demonic, just like Paul said. We tear down every thought that sets itself against knowledge of God. I did that sermon a few months ago, and I was like, there's no way a Muslim is gonna get saved from this. This is too aggressive, whatever. A few weeks ago, we get that Muslim girl in our church. She was from Lebanon. She grew up around Hezbollah. The war is happening there at the moment. very terrorist type of people. Very dedicated Muslim. Very, I'm like, she used to have a dream as a kid, all my people, and I want you to understand the philosophy, the psychology, and the worldview of a Muslim, because most Christians project their psychology onto Muslims, rather than see them as what they claim they are. That girl came and told me, I got saved at your church, I'm gonna get baptized in a few weeks. She's serving now, that as a kid, she used to have dreams about being a jihadist and dying as a martyr for Allah. Unbelievable.

So, I don't know how did that girl get saved. Normally I would be like, hey, stay away from me. I wanna live a little longer, but I care a lot for my safety, obviously. But I was shocked by how just proclaiming the truth of exposing Islam from a Christian perspective, she got saved. We had, four months ago, a whole Iranian Muslim family come to the Lord, so they immigrated from Iran to Australia, and I'm looking, I'm like, how did a person who grew up a Shia Muslim, all of his life, come, listen to some guy screaming about Muhammad, and get saved? And I was like, the Bible said, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free. So we have seen, a few weeks ago, here in Sydney, we have, you can talk about it, we have Mardi Gras, the biggest gay festival in the world, after Tel Aviv. We're very gay in Australia. Sydney is known as the gay central of the southern hemisphere. I didn't know that. So we have one of the biggest, our Mardi Gras festival, which is originally. 30 to 50,000 people. Originally, it was a Catholic festival, to mark the beginning of Lent. They, in 1971, decided to protest against the church, and the traditional institution of marriage,

and so they made it a protest against Christianity. They call it Sydney Gay and Lesbian Festival. And so Mardi Gras is a gay festival. So you guys have Pride Month in June, we have Mardi Gras in February, a whole month, and a whole month in June. So we have the whole year, pretty much, gay. Every single day, yeah. But we had a guy in his, like, 40s, and we would, it's one of our team. It was the day after Mardi Gras. In the lobby, the day after Mardi Gras, on the Sunday morning, someone was talking to him, and he said, oh, what brings you here? And he's like, I'm just gonna be very blunt with you. He says, I used to practice a homosexual lifestyle, most of my life. He says, I've very recently been exploring Christianity, and I was watching Mardi Gras on TV, and I felt so much disgust that it made me angry, because God had recently saved me out of that, that it made me angry. And he's like, and I desperately just wanted to go to a church that would talk about it. And he's like, I knew you guys were the only church that were gonna bring it up. Isn't that great? So Sydney Gay, Lesbian, Mardi Gras is huge. It's the sex pilgrimage of the LGBTQ. So every single year, it's like the Mecca of the gays.

It happened every year in Sydney, literally down the road from us, 40 minutes away from us. So during that time, we accidentally, at one time, went to the city. There's literally naked men on the street. You will not be able to take a child. You will literally find thousands of gay men hooking up, orgies, you can name it, and then young people are watching them. So this is the context of our statement. It's a very dark city. It's a very dark city. The government spends half a million to three million a year on that sex parade. So it's literally a place where Sodom and Gomorrah, Sydney, yeah, in the middle of Sydney, yeah. So Sydney is one of the most gay places in the world, after New York and Tel Aviv, one of the gayest city. So because of this godlessness and Sodom and Gomorrah 2.0, we watch the gay community, because they're looking like, okay, this is, why the heck are we having kids, drag queens, half-naked men in front of children? Like, we can't take our nephew to the city. He will see naked men, women's breasts on the street, and then our governor or premier will come and just walk with them. So this is now, it's like a sex cult. And then that's the reason why I've seen

a few of the LGBTQ community come and be like, hey, this is weird. And it's crazy. I couldn't believe that story. I was like, because you were kind of addressing that that day. So we watched people that shouldn't be saved actually get saved, away from churchianity, which is the church shouldn't speak about politics. Just preach a gospel. All these weird beliefs that we don't really know where they originated from. When you ask them, you quickly figure out they're just philosophically shallow. It's an incomplete gospel. And they are spiritually cowards. I don't know where does it come, it's a very, again, I still talk to those people, and they tend to just run away from you, because they don't have a reason for the philosophical framework. They just don't wanna wrestle with the tough questions. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, when people, and you know, you talk about COVID, you talk about woke-ism, you talk about progressivism. Whenever man looks inside of himself, away from God, it's dark and dirty. ugly, and that's, I mean, we're just seeing that. I mean, think about Marx, think about Nietzsche,

think about Sigmund Freud. Those are the three big, big, big guns of the 1800s and 1900s. We're really kind of being influenced by them today, aren't we? Now it's gone, it's gone crazy. How do you, though, how do you coach pastors, okay? Because we have a lot of pastors, Nolene and Andrew, here in America, that... They're Nietzschean, I call them. They're Freudian, Nietzschean, Marxist, and the problem is they don't know. No, they don't know. But how, okay, but you talk to these guys, and behind the scenes, they're like, yeah, I agree with you, Nolene, Andrew, yeah, Ed, I've got it, being bold, whatever. But when they get behind the pulpit, I'm talking about right here, they go soft, and they just, in my opinion, as you said so beautifully a second ago, it's an incomplete gospel, isn't it? What I'm trying to say is I'm having a hard time saying it. How would you guys coach someone to say, okay, Ed, you're struggling with this, teach me how to If you're born in America, or Australia, or UK, you were born in the midst of the sex revolution, the gay revolution, the homosex revolution, and the feminist revolution. So what you don't know is that you might not be a man, and you don't know it. So you have, by nature, lost your capability of being strong and courageous to fight. You have been feminized. So they have literally, in the last 50 years, turned your masculinity down. That's right. Yeah. So what I want people to understand, if you were born here, I'm not saying it's your fault, but I'm saying you need to have the philosophical awareness that we have replaced truth with trigger warnings, strength with sensitivity, and courage with empathy. So you will talk to most pastors, they will value sensitivity. It's not in the Bible. That's a man-made theological, sorry, philosophical Nietzschean system. You got empathy, which I believe in compassion. I'm not sure if I believe in empathy, because the foundation of empathy is feelings, the foundation of compassion is truth. So fundamentally, when you're trying to be empathetic, like you saw with the BLM, we posted a black square to find out two days later, wait, I'm supporting a Marxist organization? How stupid can I be? Yeah, I did the same thing. Yeah, I did. I posted it, and I look like an idiot now. I'm sorry, guys. But look back and I'm like, we were so driven by empathy and guilt that we didn't check the facts.

That's right. So what you don't know, if you're born in the West, you're highly emotional, very low and critical thinking. So every time you approach a topic, you're not approaching the topic from a place of truth, facts, and evidence. That's a great thought, Andrew. I totally, very well said. I just think I look at a lot of what we do. The biggest scripture that I come to, or the biggest figure or story I come to is, I did a deep dive in the book of Daniel, and specifically this spirit of Babylon that you can see emasculates young people, prevents the next generation, you're seeing it with transgenderism, abortion, all the same spirits that we were fighting with back then, we are fighting with now. But I specifically looked at the decisions of the King Hezekiah, who was very obedient and seen as a righteous king. He decided to tear down the false gods and the idols of the false gods, and that was something not many kings did. So that he was considered righteous. But then you have this moment in time where God is giving him this final prophetic word and says, the next generation after you is going to be going into exile, and they're going to go into slavery. And he doesn't say, oh no, what do I do about this? Instead he says, what you're telling me is good news, because at least I won't be here. And I think that what we are seeing in our culture now, in the church world, is a spirit of Hezekiah, a lot of people who have been living in a moment of prosperity, because the men that came before us, they fought for the gospel, they fought for freedom of this nation, but they laid down the foundation for this nation to be a Christian nation, which means that it is free. The freedom of religion you do have was paid for with a price, and there were men and women that fought very hard to do that. World War I, World War II, Vietnam War, the Anzacs, Abraham Lincoln, literally. Yeah, also honoring the amazing men of God. I mean, Billy Graham is one example, saw this idea of like, I need to preach the whole gospel no matter what the cost. And because of this great move of God, you're seeing the freedom that we do have. Now what you're seeing is what I think is a bunch of Hezekiah pastors, Hezekiah prophets. who have said, well, I'm going to experience the goodness of the prophets who came before me and built the foundation, and I'm going to experience it, build my big church, build my platform,

and anything that is going to compromise that now, even if it's going to be good for the next generation, I'm not going to be willing to speak on it. Almost like this, at least it's not going to happen in my time. I know the transgender stuff is happening. I know Islam, the oppression of Islam is coming, but at least it's not going to happen in my time. Which is huge. Islam, this is a real threat. Islam, critical theory, Marxism 2.0. It's all together. It's a satanic, as we know, here I'm telling you, satanic strategy. And how in the world pastors cannot stand against it. Andrew, Noli. I don't have an answer. I think you have to. I mean, you guys have helped me. I just want to know. I want to, with pastors, listen, I want you to understand, or even every single Christian. Number one. Yes. Are you indoctrinated by the spirit and the wisdom of the age? Or is whatever you believe is true and factual? I remember I subscribed to that narrative, that gay agenda. Most homosexuals are struggling and the church have hated them and killed them and tortured them and persecuted them. So we need to be soft. We need to not be hateful. We just need to love like Jesus. Until I went back to the drawing board and I figured out the LGBTQ, it's a Marxist sex cult. It's a Marxist sex cult. It's a political ideology that pretends to be a human rights campaign. So I was preaching with the wrong facts.

Yes. So number one, whatever you claim to be true, is it actually true? So the whole concept of people are struggling. So we need to give them the therapeutic gospel. So remove hell, remove repentance, remove sin. And by the way, this is very important because you nailed it. Like the fact that most pastors are philosophically stupid. Because you know Nietzsche, Marxist. So you understand the philosophical frameworks that the political class— Not as much as you do, but I understand a little bit. But you have a basic ideology. So the problem is most pastors that believe— I know a lot about fishing. Yeah, I love fishing. So the fact that you're aware of that cultural shift. So you're aware. We are correcting Marxists, pagans, and Muslims. Yes, that's right. We're not correcting Christians. So you have to understand their culture and their philosophy. So most people don't know the therapeutic gospel that most churches of niceness, that most churches in Texas subscribe to, that doesn't preach hell or repentance. It's actually Nietzschean. So Nietzsche believed we're not sinners. We are perfect people. We're sexual beings. And God is restricting our sexual urges. So the best way to do it is to remove any form of God and to get people to just have sex with everybody. Literally. He was a pedophile.

So what most pastors don't know, you have a Marxist worldview. So Nietzsche—I think I read that before. He was a pedophile. Yeah. That is why you have drag queens. And you know what, too? It makes sense why. Karl Marx was a bad person. Wicked. A lot of people believed he was demonically possessed. Oh, I guarantee you was. Like his adopted parents said that he was a child of the devil. They thought he was possessed by the devil. And then Sigmund Freud, you know what I mean? Crazy as a Betsy bug as we say in the South. You like that? I like that. So I think this is— Seriously, these people are evil. They're very evil. And the problem is, the question now becomes, are you going to build your house of cards of church on truth? Yes. Or on culture and narratives? That's right. COVID. Yes. Pandemic, pandemic. It's a scam-demic. It's a scam. Everybody's going to die.

And then the next one, it's like abortion is healthcare. You're like, really? And then Trump is the healer. I'm like, really? Like, not really. Black lives matter. Black lives matter. That's a Marxist organization. Trans agenda. And now you have the Israel. Notice that the narratives, by the way, pastors, most pastors are not speaking. They're hoping it's going to stop. Can I tell you something? It's not going to stop. It's going to get worse. And by worse, I mean there are so many narratives in the pipeline that are coming. So you're going to have to have a Christian worldview. And you're going to have to have a reason to contend for the faith. That's a reason. People have to understand. There is a reason why Charlie Kirk was able to move young people by 10% towards Christianity. Yes, yes. Because he confronted the philosophical demons of the age. So I really want to encourage pastors. This is not just a time of revival. It's also a time of reformation where the Christian church has to gain back its mind. Yeah, yeah. Okay, Andrew. Tell me this, everything you're saying is so great, so interesting, but tell me, just in a basic way, how do we think differently in the West compared to the ideology of Muslims?

You said earlier, like you go, Ed, people don't understand how Muslims think. And I guess you're talking about the world view. Give me just the basics of that. The first thing you have to know, if you live in the West, you're spiritually soft. You're soft. So you're feminist and feminized. The Islamic world is very hyper-masculine. Yes it is. That is why. Yes. So what you're seeing at the moment, that's why what you're going to see, you're going to see a lot of young black men becoming Muslim if your church doesn't get some boldness. I say that because you're going to lose the men. Andrew Tate. Yeah. What a great example. Because what's happening is that men, the church is serving women, which is beautiful, but they're not serving men. No. So men are going in, it's like, love Jesus, love Jesus. I'm like, dude, a man wants to fight. Yeah. Like a man wants to fish. A man wants to kill. A man wants to shoot. That's right. They don't want to give hugs and kisses. That's right. You know what I mean? So the difference between Islam and Christianity is that Christianity at the moment in the

West is catering towards women. Islam is catering towards men. So men are like, I can fight, I can conquer, I can take territory, I can punch. And now they're being discipled into toxic masculinism where they're not getting married, they're abusing women, four wives, unhinged sexuality, like Andrew Tate is a little kid that pretends to be a man. That's different. He's not a normal masculinity. He can't control his urges. Do you know Andrew? No, I don't. But I do follow him very, very closely because I knew- He's a very talented guy. Very talented. I pray he becomes a believer. I pray so. They will kill him though. He can't anymore. So Christianity is fundamentally a religion of peace. Islam is fundamentally a religion of war. And that is why whenever they come to the West, they will always win if Christians don't perceive Islam as it is, not as what you want it to be. So in order for you to understand Islam, you have to understand three things. Number one, the word of Islam, the Quran, and the Hadith. Before you talk about Islam, you have to get some form of knowledge about the Quran and the Hadith. I say at the moment, there's a lot of rise of the godless conservatives, those Tucker and Candace and these crazy people. And the problem with them is that American exceptionalism is becoming American narcissism. They're not looking at Islam through the lens of the Quran and the Hadith.

They are projecting their Christian values on Islam. That's right. So until you read the word of Islam, the Quran and the Hadith, some form of knowledge, you don't have to be an expert, but just like Nietzsche, you have to understand, you are perceiving Israel, Palestine, Islam, the Middle East, you're perceiving the whole religion in a Christian format, not in an Islamic format. The second thing, you need to understand the world of Islam. What do people there live like? My family literally escaped the Islamic world of Egypt because my dad was preaching the gospel. He was leading the church. He was pastoring. He was going to get killed and butchered on the street or go to jail because we have apostates and blasphemers for simply preaching the gospel and converting a woman to a Christian, from a Muslim to a Christian. My family escaped the Islamic world in 2007 as religious refugees to Australia. So the world of Islam, Christians are getting killed and butchered, and it's illegal to preach or proclaim the gospel in the public square. It's illegal for a Muslim to become a Christian. It's illegal to have revival. So before you talk about Islam and Kataka says, oh, the Middle East is awesome. Sharia law is awesome. It's not that bad. Oh, Qatar is better than Israel for Christians. I'm like, what? I'm like, what are you talking about? I'm like, say that to the hundreds of thousands of Christians that literally had to escape the Islamic world for the life. So you need to understand the word of Islam, the world of Islam and number three, the worldview of Islam.

What is the worldview of Islam? How do Muslims perceive the world? Not how you'd perceive Islam. So the fish doesn't know it's wet. You live in a creek until you get the fish out of the water and you leave it and the fish start dying and quickly the fish realize, oh, I was in water. That is the whole concept of worldview. So Christians don't know that love, tolerance, diversity, democracy, freedom, all of the things are in the context of Christianity. The moment you bring Muslims and put them in the Christian tank, they will make the Christian tank, a Muslim tank, more violent and tyrannical. So most Christians don't know. The reason you're liberal or gay is because of the Christian worldview that allows you to be free. So you have to understand the world, the word of Islam, the world of Islam, and the worldview of Islam. Yeah, and I think the problem is that a lot of people in the West, not even just in the church, like, yes, in the church, but also outside of the church, are viewing Islam. For example, this is why you'll get things like that Islam is a religion of peace, and, you know, it's a loving religion, a religion of love. The reason that we're coming up with these ideas is because we're Christianized, because we view Islam through the lens of Christianity, like Andrew's saying. We value freedom fundamentally at the heart of Christianity, at the heart of the West. We value liberty. The idea that because Jesus has set you free, you will be free indeed. This is the foundation of Christianity. It's a foundation of the West. You are projecting the idea of freedom onto a religion that fundamentally does not believe in freedom. Free Palestine. So the problem is that the idea of free Palestine, it's like they don't believe in freedom. They don't believe in liberty. The fundamental aspect of Islam is, Andrew will talk about it on Sunday, even the formation of the word Islam, it's peace through surrender.

So the idea of a totalitarian government, by the way, Islam is not a religion. It's a totalitarian political ideology. That's in every single Islamic state in the world. There is no conspiracy to what we're saying. The 54 states in the whole entire globe, the Muslim one, they have Sharia law. It's illegal for a Christian to preach a gospel. It's illegal for a Muslim to become a Christian. Christians will go to jail, get killed. Whatever we're saying is historically, factually, philosophically, and theologically accurate. Yes, so I was in a church gathering, and it was a woman's conference, and they had somebody speaking on the idea of open borders, right? They were trying to pitch— The biggest church in Australia. They were trying to pitch the idea to the church that we should love our neighbor, and open up our homes, and not be led by fear, but be led by love. Then I come home to my husband, and I come home to my also ex-Muslim friends, and they're saying they're preaching in the context of Christianity. Like, it's not—it's a different world. If you're opening up your doors to someone, you're not going to have a man who's there protecting his household to open up his doors to someone who—what's the percentage of— They're going to rape your daughter. Most likely has this idea of your house is a house of war, and I'm coming to invade. 80% of sexual assaults in UK happen by Muslim men. 30% of them are called Muhammad. In Australia— You've got to be joking. No, that is a fact. This is the inconvenience— 80%! That's big for themselves.

70% to 80% of rapes and sexual assaults in UK happen by Muslim rape gangs, and 30% out of the men are called, not Jesus, Muhammad. Well, he was a pedophile, so it kind of makes sense. It's the Peruvian and the Portuguese. Not just that, in Australia, 3.5% of Australia are Muslim, yet they commit 95% of the terrorist attacks. So this is just a fact. Oh, not all Muslims are terrorists. I'm like, yeah, but all terrorists. It's not all. Most, if not all, terrorists are Muslim. 9-11, October 7th, Bondi attack. You had the Oklahoma shooting. You had the Orlando bombing. You had the Bali bombing. You had the London bombing. You had the Bali— It's like, I've never seen a Christian go around Jesus, Akbar, and they bomb themselves. That's right. I've never seen a Jew go around Yahweh, Akbar, and bomb themselves. Every time you see someone say, Allah Akbar, something has to explode, and people have to die. So we have to view Islam through the lens of Islam, not project our Christian love, tolerance, and diversity to a religion that fundamentally hates you. And this is the problem. These terrorist cases that you see, they are not the fruit of radical Islam. This is the deception a lot of people in the West are believing. That is not radical Islam. That is faithful Islam. That is just like if you—

Faithful Islam, not radical, but faithful. No, so if you were to have a conversation with someone who identifies as a progressive Christian, and they were to say to you, yeah, I believe that God is okay with me being gay, you would conclude, oh, they're not following the Bible. They're not a faithful Christian. You wouldn't say, oh, you're a normal Christian, and I'm a radical Christian because I believe the Bible. No, you're understanding if they follow the Bible, they are just a Christian. And if you're not, then you're not really considered a Christian. In Islam, we don't do that. We don't apply that because we don't understand this. We look at somebody who faithfully follows the Quran as a radical. No, they're just a normal Muslim. They're just a faithful Muslim. The ones who are not following the Quran are not really considered faithful. In fact, other Muslims would look at them like they are not faithful. They have a word for it, whatever it is. But they see them as people who are abandoning the faith and are not being faithful to the cause of Allah. So what we call radical Islam is actually just faithful Islam if you read the Quran. And that's to Andrew's point. You have to understand Islam through the lens of the Quran. You can't project the Bible and your view on them— I know most Christians— Muslims don't believe in the Bible, but Muslims actually do believe in the Qur'an. I know it. Shocker. Wow. I like it. How do you, though, okay, against the backdrop of all this brilliant insight and knowledge, how do we evangelize the Muslims?

Islam is a religion of power. The way to evangelize to Islam, you need to crush it. It's like Marxism. Both communists and Muslims, that's why they like each other. Gays for Gaza, Zohra Mandani, socialist Muslim gay trans. You're like, this makes sense. They worship power. The way, that's why I like President Trump's strength on Islam, peace through strength. It's because Islam is a religion of power. The way to deal with Islam is to crush Islam philosophically and culturally. We don't need to kill people. We don't need to get our guns unless you're protecting yourself. To kill people, all you need to do is to use the sword of the Bible. The Bible is a sword. The Bible, take it out. Take it out. Get that sword and use it as a weapon. The Bible is not a gay romantic love story between you and Jesus. It's actually the sword of the Spirit. That's right. It's a weapon. If you use the Bible correctly, I'm shocked, honestly. Look, Muslims don't want to do two things with me. They either want to kill me or they get saved. It's the two things. Once you tell them, some of them will be like, okay, I don't want to be a Muslim. This is evil. And we saw them in our church because I'm like, I did not expect Muslims to get saved is what I'm saying. But we have watched them get saved radically. Like radically because you told them the truth.

So you must be equipped theologically in order to be ready to have a reason for the hope that you have. In order for you to contend for the faith. This is awesome because the truth is, this is a time where every single Christian is going to have to go back to the Bible. The four main things Islam attacks us on. Number one, Christology. It's Jesus, God, man. We claim that we worship a man who pretends to be God. So you can dig in there. I'm going to dig in there on Sunday. The Christology. Number two, Trinitarian theology. They claim that we worship three gods, Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Number three, Bibliology, which they claim that we changed and corrupted the Bible. That's why the prophet Mohammad came to fix the Bible. And then lastly, that's an easy one. You can destroy them with salvation. Muslims don't know how to get saved. Because they're saved by work. So the good news for you, every time you meet a Muslim and they argue, you tell them, are you going to heaven? That's brothel heaven that they have with so many conversions. They'll be like, I don't know. We'll tell them, well, I do know. I'm going to heaven. Tell them, how do you get to heaven? They're like, well, you need to fast pray, go to Hedge, go to Mecca, and maybe, maybe. Hopefully. Hopefully I'll make it to heaven. Well, this is the thing about the salvation by work thing. It's very important. And this is where you can really preach the gospel to them.

That's one of the first questions we will ask a Muslim is, so are you going to heaven? We first want to help them understand. Only Allah knows. We first want to help them understand fundamentally, number one, we don't worship the same God. So Tucker is wrong about that. Number two, I mean, Jesus is God. But then number three. Tucker's been wrong about so much. He's crazy. I know Tucker's background. And the other day he was even attacking some great churches that I know about. He has no clue what he's saying. I know some of the people and he was lying about them. Poor guy. There's a few things. Tucker is so sad. He thinks he's smart, but he's not. He's very deceived. He's so deceived. He needs to surrender his life to Jesus. It's pitiful. He's a propagandist. He said Sharia law is very good. I'm like, dude, Sharia law is not a joke. There is literal Christians that are getting killed because Sharia law. He said Muslims love Jesus. I'm like, yeah, they love Jesus as a prophet. In fact, the Muslim Jesus is not the Jesus of the Bible. The Muslim Jesus is coming back in the end times in Jerusalem to kill and butcher every single Jew. To eradicate Israel out of Jews.

And then the Muslims are going to kill every Jew in the land. And then the stones and the trees are going to cry. Hey, Muslim, servant of Allah, the Jew behind me, come and kill me. Then Jesus is going to become a Muslim, break the cross, make the Christians Muslim. And the Christians are going to become Muslim. They're going to kill them. So when Tucker said Muslims like Jesus. It's not the Jesus that I worship. It's a totally. I'm not sure what the heck is Tucker talking about. The third thing Tucker said, he said American Muslim, which is like trans woman and woman. I'm like, that's an oxymoron. America is about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Islam is about death, tyranny, and the pursuit of war, a.k.a. Jihad. When you say American Muslim, that is an oxymoron. Yes, it is. So he said the Sharia law. He said Jesus is God. He said that. And then the final thing, he was like, oh, President Trump, how dare you make fun of Allah? How dare you? Remember that joke that Trump did? Praise to be Allah. I was laughing hilariously. I'm like, how do you mock other religion? I'm like, dude, what do you mean? Elijah in the Bible mocked the false God of Baal. I'm like, Trump has a very good understanding of Islamic theology. The idea that he mocked the pagan, evil,

wicked demon God of Allah, it's genius. Because Muslims claim to be the one true religion, yet somehow they don't have the power to claim that God, their God keeps on losing. So my claim is, no, Tucker, you can make fun of wicked religions, but God looks from heaven and he mocks the evil people. Elijah said to Baal, where's your God? To Jezebel, where's your God? Is he in the toilet? The Bible said in Proverbs three, when you reject wisdom, wisdom will laugh and mock at you. No, we're supposed to mock stupid ideas and ungodly ideas. We're not supposed to mock what is holy, but we are supposed to mock what is ungodly. So there's a lot of propaganda coming from Tucker and you can clearly see he's a new Christian. He's either a new Christian or a very malicious man who's purposely working his way. He now considers himself a socialist. It's very important to know that. The last three weeks, he finally, he has been revealing his Islamic and socialist agenda. So you will watch Tucker in the next few months. And I said that a few years ago to a few people and they removed it from the podcast. You'll watch him evolve into a left-wing socialist activist mixed with an Islamic defender and sympathizer,

assuming he's not a Muslim. I don't know. I don't know. He doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense. A Christian whose brothers and sisters are getting butchered across the globe, literally. Every single day in Nigeria, at least 30 Christians get butchered by Muslims. Across the globe, thousands of Christians getting killed daily by Muslims. It does not make sense to me at all that a Christian will jump on a podcast and say, oh, Muslims are awesome. American Muslims. Muslims love Jesus. When I'm like, oh my gosh. I have, so you're an apostate. You're working for the other team, but you're pretending to be on my team. So that's literally the definition of apostate. And he hasn't read the Quran and understood the Quran. He's not interested in the Quran. With the workspace salvation thing, it's if you read the way that Muslims think that they get saved, is the only assured way to get to their heaven is through jihad, through bombing yourself. That's the assurance of salvation. That's the assurance.

The only certain way to go to heaven. I've never thought about that. In other words, you have to spill your blood and the blood of innocence around you in order to get to heaven. Christianity is fundamentally the opposite. Christianity is Jesus shed his blood so that I could live. And so you tell that to a Muslim. You say, I don't have to work for my salvation because Jesus' blood was spilt for me. You, the only assured way to get to heaven is by spilling your blood. What kind of a God would expect that? My God died for me so that I could go to heaven. He set me free. You have to die for your God. And so there are so many Muslims, Ed, that have been saved because of this idea, because of the satiriology of Islam or Christianity. We are very superior. We're way better. I'm a Christian supremacist. That's why I'm a Christian. You're supposed to stop talking about a bunch of accidents that happened because you're a microchrist. I'm a Christian, okay. Okay, okay. So we have, we're in your 13th week, almost half way through our time on this show, where, where's our break in our curriculum.

We have anything you want to say to people who are next to me? No. I'm here for you. I'm here for you. I'm with you. I'm here for you. whosethings. But that's the mechanism. There is the thing about себя. It's kind of your ways of being a Christian simply because of that. Theology of social justice, which is like an oxymoron. Yes. Yeah, sorry. They literally had a subject called the theology of social, it's like. Okay, define that, because I guarantee you, most people, most people listening are like, what? What does that, okay, tell, what does that mean? Liberation theology. Okay, so, I mean, people have been hearing us talk about the term Marxism. The current poet, by the way, is liberation theology. Oh, yeah. It's a big warning to all my Catholic friends. The Catholic church have been meddling with liberation theology for the last 20, it's very sad. Yeah, but, so people have been hearing us

use the term Marxism. I think that, fundamentally, the church has been infiltrated by Marxist thought. This idea of intersectionality, that because there was, and this comes from, like, and this is such a, we could do a whole episode on this, but it comes from after Karl Marx, who was the founder of this idea of Marxism, after he died, there was a man that came after him who thought, let me tweak Karl Marx's idea in a way that'll make it work. He was wrong in a sense. It's not just economic, it's actually cultural. Yes. It's a cultural Marxism. The idea was, we need to flip the oppressive powers of culture. So whoever's at the top, this idea of these men at the top, the elites at the top, we need to get the guys on the bottom and they need to become the ones on the top. to flip the hegemony is what the term is. But the idea was you have to infiltrate the institutions of power. Infiltrate the church with Marxist ideology. Infiltrate the media with Marxist theology. Infiltrate the judicial system, the education system, everything that has influence over people, we need to embed Marxism into it. That's why every movie you will see, the favorite character, the quirky underdog

is always the gay guy. Or the person who is the most loved character is always the person struggling with their gender. Or they have to insert those ideas and make you feel empathetic towards them. That's why Snow White is black, even though she's white, black, yeah. What makes you guys think that? Snow Black or Black Snow. His name is Antonio Gramsci. Right. So he was an Italian Marxist, yeah. And Marxism didn't work, that's what you. Yeah, it never worked, yeah. But that was their idea. Because Marxism failed as an idea. That's brilliant. And it's the result, it's killed 100 million people at least throughout history. And so this guy, Antonio Gramsci, said, okay, this is why it failed, is it's not just an economic system, it's not just political, we have to make it cultural too. Which is very smart, because he added an emotional component. Your sex, your feelings. He was a genius, when you really think about it. Because China didn't become communist because of money. China became communist in 1949 because of the culture revolution.

That's why the gay agenda, the queer agenda, the race agenda, and the Islamic agenda, they combined together to use empathy and emotions to create an emotional, like you remember during BLM, nothing made sense. It was like, cool, can we please sit down and define racism? And there's no definition. If you ask a question, you're racist. Because the whole game hinges on emotional explosion and manipulation, and it all hinges on empty slogans. Queer for Palestine, gays for Gaza, Black Lives Matter, abortion is healthcare, and you're like, makes this make sense. But he was genius because he added an emotional component, which means now, you don't need to make sense. You just need to know smack. Yeah, yeah. So he is the leader, you would say, one of the guys that is kind of the juice behind liberation theology. And then the Catholics ended up embracing a little bit of it, Amon Shahu particularly, and then the Christian version of it is liberation theology. Yeah. So they, and then they use the Bible to justify it, proclaim the good news to the poor, which is a heresy. What is liberation theology to a Christian? How would you describe it?

Liberation theology that Jesus didn't come to free you from your sin, but Jesus came to free you from the oppressive systems and structures. So there's a lot of them around. You gotta have the biggest one, James Totacco, what's his name? Who is the guy running for Senate here? Texas, he's a Christian Marxist. He's winning a lot at the moment, his liberation theology. Jesus didn't come to liberate your soul from sin. Jesus came to liberate yourself from the racist, black, gay, queer, anti-woman, feminist, right? So they change a gospel to a social justice gospel. It's very, very smart because instead of being about you repenting, it became about systematic structure and changes. So you are no longer the problem. It's a system around you. And then they created a little Christian twist on it. So social justice is not justice. Justice is just justice. Social justice is about men. Justice is about God. Social justice is about, social justice is about virtue signaling and bitterness. You have to say, sorry, Dave. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. I'm sorry for being white.

I'm sorry for being not gay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Black lives matter. Black lives matter. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. That's social justice. There's no forgiveness in it. You will have to apologize every day. You will have to bend the knee, personal square, George Floyd, whatever. Brianna Taylor. It's secular justice. And it's very interesting because justice is directed towards God. Once you understand the justice of God, you'll forgive everybody. That's why the Bible said, forgive us as we forgive. You no longer become bitter. You no longer say it's white men. No, you become a lot more aware. We have all sinned. So liberation theology is Marxism, rebranded with Christian language in order to deceive Christians who don't have a Christian worldview. And it gets manifested in critical race theory, the BLM, critical queer theory, the LGBTQ, critical gender theory, feminism. And now we have critical religion theory, which is Islam.

So in order for you to not be an oppressor, you need to be a black trans woman or trans man. I don't know. Cause I'm not sure what it's men or women, but you need to be a black trans woman, bisexual Muslim. woman, that is the pinnacle, the lowest scale of intersectionality, and Muslim. So if you're a Christian gay, a Muslim gay is higher than you, so it's like, it's the whole system of, and so social justice is socialism rebranded, socialism, social. And this is the beautiful thing is like when we look at justice, because Christians should care about justice. The problem is social justice is not biblical justice, it's secular justice. And we are looking at the framework of what justice is through the lens of some of these guys, these Freud and Nietzsche, all these guys who take God out of the equation and say, let's get human beings to solve the human problem. And then you have the American version, who are the two guys that created the Black Lives Matter theory? Oh, you have a Black Lives Matter theory? No, the whole white fragility. You have a lot, there's a lot. And it got, the Americans obviously added the race component to it. Because what they do, they study different culture and civilization, and they find the points of division, and then they will inject the Marxist theory into the point of division. It's genius. You know what I mean? So there was racism and slavery, amazing, let's get that Marxism and inject it and maximize on the crack in order to create a political revolution. So as one example, like when it comes to the feminism thing is, we can see that the biblical lens and what Christianity did was before Christianity became normal, women didn't have rights in any culture in society. The Romans saw women as second class citizens. They didn't possess the logos, logic. They didn't have as much intelligence as men. They were baby making machines. They could, men could do what they wanted to women. This was normal before Christianity became normal. Then you have Paul teaching in Galatians 3, no, there is no Jew or Gentile, slave or free, male or female, we are all equal in Christ. This flipped the way culture saw women. All of a sudden women are treated with dignity and they're protected and provided for.

Now all of a sudden women have dignity and value culturally, not just theologically. And so the way women are treated changed because of Christianity. It wasn't because of an Enlightenment atheist movement. It was because of Christianity. That's justice. Now you have go to the 1800s in the first wave feminist movement. Now you have a group of people who are atheists who see God as the problem and Satan as the liberator. And now they think we need to liberate women from the church. We need to liberate women from patriarchy. It's an oppressive system. Now they try to bring justice to women seeing God as the problem. And so this is the problem. Now you have feminism is a secular philosophy. It's an atheist philosophy. A lot of people don't know that. They think the idea that women and men are equal and I just want to say that, they think, yeah, well, I'm a feminist. I'm like, no, you're actually a Christian if you believe that. If you want to ascribe a philosophical framework to the idea of men and women being equal, then you should be a Christian. Feminism is an atheist philosophy. That's the difference between biblical justice, which brought freedom to women as one example, and secular justice, which is feminism, that claims to bring freedom to women but they saw God as the oppressor. So they thought they were freeing women from the oppressor who was God in the Bible. And so that's the problem is a lot of Christians are learning secular justice in school, in college, in every movie that you watch, in TV show, and unfortunately sometimes on the pulpit in the American church. And so they are confused. They think, yeah, they're ascribing to secular justice ideas unknowing that it's actually completely unbiblical. And so what we try to do is that's why we're talking about all these issues. Let's deconstruct, not deconstruct the Bible. We need to deconstruct culture. Deconstruct ourselves.

I'm a deconstructionist. Yes. Culture. I like that. So you need to make a decision. Are you going to deconstruct God or the world? Yes. Are you going to deconstruct the Bible or you? Yes. That's good. And I'm not, I don't have, I'm a Christian, so I deconstruct myself, not God. The Bible is perfect, I'm not. Yeah. That's excellent. We're very blessed because we live in Australia. So we are, all these ideological frameworks are now into policy, politics, and culture. Okay, let me tell you something else, Andrew. So we are, we are now, now in Australia, we're like 25 years ahead of you guys, where this ideological framework is the law of the land. It's now political. So right now in Australia, if I pray for a gay person, if I preach to a gay person one-on-one, if I lay my hands or have this conversation with a gay person, as a pastor, I would go to jail for five years. And my church will get fined $100,000 for praying the gay away. Yeah. So a gay person can report you to what's called the Human Rights Commission, even if they consented in the moment. If a gay person comes to our church in the lobby and they say, hey pastor, I heard your sermon. I'm really struggling with homosexuality.

Would you pray for me? Would you help me? Is there someone that can disciple me? And we do that. We are a base preacher, and we disciple those who are asking for discipleship. Even if they consented in the moment, they can take us to the Human Rights Commission, where we will be up against the government legally, and the government will fight for their right to their gayness, and they see what we're doing as conversion therapy and oppressing their gender identity. So we can go to jail. We also, right now in the beginning of the year, because of the Islamization of Australia, they just passed what they call, not hate speech laws, but hate preaching laws. So right now in Australia, I can be considered at a hate preaching, and the definition of hate is pastors preaching that causes offense, division, psychological harm, or hurting people's feelings. Un- Which is the gospel. Which is the gospel. Exactly. We literally had the terrorism police come to our church, at least five, like a lot of times, nearly every day, because of the sermon I'm about to preach on Sunday. They came to investigate me of what they call hate speaking, or hate incident, and potential Islamophobia, that I might be a terrorist, even though I'm the one that my family escaped the Islamic world in Egypt for their life. So these ideas, they do have consequences. You just need to look at UK, look at France, look at Europe, look at Australia, just look at Canada, down the road from you guys, look at 2016 till today. You have been watching the crazy things, like people in jail for saying the wrong word, or for protesting in front of abortion clinic, seriously.

Praying in front of an abortion clinic. So what we're saying, it might sound crazy, but the goal of all these theories is to infiltrate the political and legal institutions. So eventually, it will become the law of the land, if we don't engage. I think it's if the church did its job and spoke to these issues. Like, you can't argue, like you have the Word of God, and you have the Spirit of God anointing you to speak. You have the authority of Jesus himself. When you declare truth from a pulpit, and you do your job and disciple, there is so much power in that. Yes, there is. It doesn't matter how many views these podcasters have. We can transform the nation, if the church just does its job. But unfortunately, a lot of pastors are just sitting out, and saying, we'll leave it up to these guys. And now, they're the only voices that a lot of young people hear in. And that is the reason, going back to the beginning, pastor, this gives you every single reason. If you don't disciple your people, someone else will. That's right. You know, when, changing the subject, but when Charlie was martyred, we, of course, addressed it, as some churches did here in Dallas-Fort Worth. I was appalled at how many didn't say a word or just said, let's pray for them. I thought, that is the most pathetic response. That is the most estrogen-driven response that a man could have. And I even told people, too, hey, if that's your church, you need to go to another one. I mean, you need to go to a Bible-believing church where your pastor has something called courage. Yeah.

You need courage. Like, it is heartbreaking. Like, America is in such a dangerous zone, because we went from land of the free, home of the brave. Now, we have a young father, dad, by the name of Charlie Kirk, getting butchered for what he believes. Yes. Like, I pray and I hope this woke the hell out of pastors. Dude, you have a Christian martyr, not in Afghanistan, in America. So I pray that you wake the hell up. I pray, I'm like, dude, you literally had a young father who went on the street to preach a gospel. He watched a young people revival sweep across the nation. This is very important, guys. Revival in the 21st century came looking like a young man starting a political organization. God uses what we don't expect. That's why the Pharisees miss Jesus. And I think the church is in the Pharisee season. We are so focused on Choshianity, the game that we created in the last 50 years, the Seeker Sensitive, nice, inclusive, diverse, five steps to leadership, how to make people feel good, whatever the hell that means, develop the living within you, around you, around you, within you, everywhere, that we have watched the Lord raise an external prophet. Charlie Kirk was a prophet. Yes, he was. Prophets get butchered.

That is kind of, a lot of people claim to be prophets. You're really a prophet when you get butchered. That is actually the proof of your prophecy. Jesus, John the Baptist. And then the Lord had to raise external voices to correct us. And maybe the Lord took him away to give us a reality check. That's right. That's right, move so. That's great. what you said is awesome. I praise her, you know, and I want to share my testimony. And this is very important to give every pastor. I just want to give you the courage and the boldness and just the authority to say, a few years before 2007, before immigrating to Australia as a religious refugee coming from the Islamic world of Egypt, my dad converted a particular Muslim woman to Christianity. We didn't intend on converting her. We loved her. We gave her food, shelter. Her husband, Muslim, very abusive. So we literally opened a house to her, preach a gospel. She ended up becoming a Christian. What we didn't know at the time is that woman, her husband was from Muslim Brotherhood. Muslim Brotherhood is like the Hamas of Egypt, Hezbollah, Taliban, Al-Qaeda, 9-11. You don't mess with those people. He was very angry and furious on my dad for taking away what's most precious to him, his wife. So he decided as a revenge and as a consequence, he was going to take away what is most precious to him and what is so precious to him, which was me and my younger brother, John. He decided that he's going to get two of his Muslim Brotherhood friends or team or terrorists, and he was going to kidnap both of us, behead us, and then send our bodies and heads in a bag as a consequence for my dad taking what is most precious to him, which is his wife. He orchestrated the plan. He made the plan. He came to our apartments 7am in the morning as me and my younger brother

used to go to school in a yellow bus. Him and the two other Muslim Brotherhood men, the three Muslim Brotherhood terrorists, they stayed. Until me and my younger brother were going to school, the moment we started to move, all of them, they froze and they could not move at all. They froze in time and space and could not move at all until me and my younger brother, John, we went to the bus. The bus drove to the end of the street. The bus disappeared. The moment the bus disappeared, they started to move again. The guy was very confused, angry, furious. Like, what the heck? You got a coward who has killed a lot of Christians before. This is an easy job. Two little kids will behead them. So he came the week after with two other Muslim Brotherhood men. They come 7am in the morning as me and my younger brother, John, are about to go to school. All of them felt a power and a force take their hand and put it behind their head, and they could not move at all. They froze in time and space and they could not move at all until me and my younger brother, John, went to the yellow school bus. The bus drove to the end of the street. The moment the bus disappeared, they started to move again. We didn't know this was happening. If I knew this was happening, I wouldn't be going to school that day. I would have said, Mom, can I skip school? I think she would have said yes. But the reason why this was happening is because this Muslim Brotherhood man came to my dad a few weeks later and he told my dad, your God saved you, your children and your family from my evil and wicked hand. He became a Christian. He accepted Jesus. He repented of his sin. He got baptized and now him and his whole entire family are Christians. This is my point, Pastor. Your job is to preach. God's job is to protect. Exactly. Your job is to speak. God's job is to save. Your job is to proclaim. God's job is to deliver. So don't be silent. Don't be quiet. Choose to have courage for the faith, to fight, fight, fight.

Brilliant. I love it. What a story, a testimony. We love you guys. Andrew and Nolene Sedra.