The Cost Of Truth (Ed Young, Frank Turek)

In this episode of the C3 Leadership Podcast, Pastor Ed Young sits down with Dr. Frank Turek — apologist, author of I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist and The War on Reality, and founder of Cross Examined — for a sharp conversation about defending the Christian faith in a culture that's lost its grip on truth.

Frank explains why the number one objection to Christianity today isn't science but morality — people are on a "happiness quest, not a truth quest" — and shares the question that cuts through every objection: "If Christianity were true, would you become a Christian?" He and Ed talk about evangelism as gardening, not harvesting, why most people are rounding the bases long before they come to Christ, and the "soft serve" pastors who avoid the hard truths their congregations are living through.

Frank also reflects on his friendship with Charlie Kirk, whom he mentored for five and a half years and was with the day he was killed — the issues Charlie cared about most, the legacy Erica Kirk is carrying forward, and how God brings good from evil. Plus: cultural Marxism and "poison justice," the truth about Islam and the Crusades, why Christians ceded the culture, and how love means telling the truth, not telling people what they want to hear.