Uncomplicate Your Faith | Hosanna Wong

Hey, Central family, I hope you're doing well. I want to say a big shout out this weekend to everybody joining us across all of our locations as well as online, and especially those who are watching in prison facilities around the country through our partnership with God Behind Bars and the Pando app. Thank you guys for being with us. This weekend, we're starting a new teaching series called Uncomplicated, and it's inspired by our friend Hosanna Wong's latest book, which is actually called Uncomplicated. I remember a couple of years ago, she was sharing with me the idea behind this book, and she was saying that she was gonna interview a thousand people and ask them what got in the way of them connecting with God and what worked in helping them connect with God. She was gonna collect all this material from everyday people's lives and really show her learnings, a pathway for spiritual growth, not a one-size-fits-all, but an uncomplicated kind of pathway to help us all grow in her relationship with God. And I remember at the time thinking, that's an amazing idea, that's a lot of people and a lot of work. And now here we are a few years later, and she's done it, she's written an incredible book. By the way, her book is available online or at our central locations,

so make sure to try and check it out this weekend. Well, Hosanna is gonna be here today to kick off this teaching series. Next weekend, I'll be back teaching, and we're gonna continue to explore some of Hosanna's learnings and insights as we also continue on in looking at Jesus teaching in the Gospel of John. Hosanna Wong is an international speaker, best-selling author, a spoken word artist, and really she's family here to us. Her husband, Guy, served as a youth pastor for many years. They met here at Central, and so we claim them both as family. Guy and Hosanna are some of my favorite people on the planet, and I'm always so honored that we can host her. And so I'm grateful that she's here this weekend. Let's give a huge, warm, big Central welcome to Hosanna Wong. Hey, Central family. I am so blessed to be with the Central family. I met my husband, Guy, here at Central. Pastor Judd and Lori Wilhite are two of our very best friends, so it is always a treat when I get to be with the Central family. I'm so excited to be with you all. I grew up on the streets of San Francisco in an outdoor church.

My dad battled heroin addiction for 15 years. He fought in a gang. He was in and out of prison, and then a woman introduced him to Jesus, and Jesus changed his whole life. Amen. Yes, Jesus is still in the business of transforming lives. And then my dad ended up starting an outdoor church to our friends living without homes and battling with addiction, and that's how I grew up. And I remember growing up on the streets of San Francisco and putting my faith in Jesus. I remember when I made that choice, it felt so simple. But then as I got older, following Jesus started to feel more and more complicated. And maybe you can relate. Perhaps you recently put your faith in Jesus, but knowing what to do now has started to feel complicated. Or perhaps you followed Jesus for a long time, but knowing how to best spend time with God right now in the current season you're in has started to feel complicated. Or perhaps if you're anything like me, perhaps you once had a picture in your mind

of what a perfect Christian looks like. Can anyone relate to this? I can see the picture I used to have in my mind right now. I can imagine how much they smile, the music they listen to, how early they wake up in the morning. And maybe you can relate if you've ever felt like, man, I just can't engage with God the way that those people do. Or I don't have the right background. Or I'm not currently in the best circumstances. Or maybe you have felt like, man, my schedule is totally different from them. Or my personality is totally different from them. For some of us, if we are not living up to the standards that we think a Christian should be at, sometimes we can feel like we are failing at our faith. In fact, I asked 1,000 people around the world what are some roadblocks that they feel when it comes to connecting with God. And here were the six greatest roadblocks that I discovered. I wonder if you can relate to any of these. Here they are. One, busyness. Two, distractions.

Three, grief. Four, shame. Five, silence. Not sure if you can hear from God. And then finally, expectations. And maybe that's expectations that come. from other people, the way they think you should live, the timeline they think you should be on, the way they think your faith should look like, but sometimes it's our own expectations that we have put on ourselves. And I want you to know that many of the expectations that we carry do not come from God. In fact, having a relationship with God was never meant to be so complicated. In fact, I was thinking about a way that this concept became very real to me through my relationship with my husband, Guy. In fact, 12 years ago, Pastor Jud married us. We're about to celebrate 12 years married. Oh, thank you, praise God, thank you, thanks. It has truly been the best 12 years of his life. So praise God, thank you. Just a show of hands really quickly, would you shoot your hands up in the air at all our locations if you and your friends and your family, if you're game night people, if you love playing Monopoly, Trivia Night, Uno, anyone in the house, me and my husband, our families, we're big game night people.

Poker, cards, we love it. But let me tell you something. If our friends are putting on a trivia night, your girl will be picked last. And the reason is because I have all these gaps when it comes to pop culture knowledge because I didn't grow up with a TV. So I have about two decades of gaps of pop culture knowledge and so I commonly felt pretty embarrassed about this thing in my life. I felt like this roadblock in my knowledge was really a roadblock in all of my relationships growing up. In junior high, it was hard to make friends because I wasn't watching the same shows or listening to the same music anyone was listening to. In high school, it was hard dating boys because they would ask me, what's your favorite movie? And I would say, I don't know, I've only seen two. And for so much of my life, I felt so embarrassed about this thing about myself, I felt like these gaps were a roadblock in all of my relationships. But then I met my now husband, Guy, here at Central Church. And when I met Guy, it turned out Guy loves movies. And when we started dating, he thought it was so cool that he would get to show me all of these movies through his lens. He made a whole list for me. I'll never forget when he showed me the movie Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

Are you cheering? I cannot believe the things they let children watch in the 80s. My goodness. We're laughing our heads off. We're Googling things about the actors all week long. We're listening to podcasts. We talked about it for weeks. It actually became a catalyst to deeper connection. I'll never forget when he showed me the movie Titanic. Have you heard of it? We're watching this movie, sitting on my couch. The movie ends, I'm weeping. And I look over at Guy and I say, Guy, that movie was amazing. Everybody needs to see it. And he just put his arms around me and he said, my love, everybody else has seen it. What I saw as a gap, my husband saw as an opportunity. What I saw as a roadblock, he saw as a shortcut, a pathway, a catalyst to deeper connection, a way for me to have a relationship unlike any other relationship I've ever had in my life. And this relationship is filled with fun facts and funny conversations. And there's still so many movies I've got to see. Let me tell you, our relationship with God isn't too different from this. Some of us might feel like we have spiritual gaps. Maybe we were not raised in church.

Maybe our parents were not raised in church. Maybe we come to church and we don't know the words to all of these songs. We don't even know what all of these words mean. We don't know all the stories in the Bible. When someone asks us a question about what the Bible says about this, or you're trying to figure out what God would have you do in a certain situation with your family, we don't always have the answers. And for some of us, we might think that we have to get our whole lives together before we can encounter God. But I want you to know what you see as gaps, God sees as an opportunity. And what you see as roadblocks, God sees as a shortcut. He would love to be the one to show you what real life with him is like through his lens. And this relationship will be unlike any other relationship you've ever had in your life. What we will be unpacking throughout. this series is this truth. it turns out that your relationship with God can be simpler and more personal than you've ever imagined. I want to quote Jesus to you in John 15. this is something Jesus himself said. when we get to the red words, will you say those words out loud with me? Jesus said, live in me, make your home in me, just as I do in you. in the same way that a branch can't bear grapes by itself, but only by being joined to the vine, you can't bear fruit unless you are joined with me. and then Jesus says, I am the vine. there ain't no other vine. and then he says, you are the branches. when you are joined with me and I with you, the relation intimate and organic, the harvest is sure to be abundant.

separated, you can't produce a thing. it's important to note that Jesus said, live in me. other translations say, abide in me or remain in me, rest in me. and we're gonna unpack more of this passage in the upcoming weeks. keep coming back. but today I just want to point out that Jesus did not say, work for me. he did not say, go and try harder for me. he said, live in me. this relationship is less like putting on a suit and tie and going to work and trying to perform really well. it's more like putting on your favorite hoodie and reclining in your favorite chair and resting in the safety of your home. Jesus is saying, I want you to live in me, to find your home in me, for you to feel as safe as possible, to be the most yourself with me. that is what Jesus was saying. because let me tell you, God knew that throughout our lives we would feel roadblocks in connecting with him. in fact, our sin and our shame are in fact roadblocks to God. so God sent a solution. he sent his son Jesus to come and be with us, to die on a cross for our sins, to forgive us of our sins. he was buried and then he rose again so that when you and I put our faith in Jesus, we are saved from our sins, we are forgiven, we have a clean slate, and now we can have a real relationship with God. Jesus made a way through the roadblocks. Jesus himself said this in John 14 6, say the red words with me. Jesus answered, I am the way and the truth and the life. no one comes to the Father except through me. I want you to know what I wish I would have known years ago. the way to God is not through performing, it's not through achieving, it's not through impressing other people, it's not even through having perfect rhythms or sounding super spiritual or seeming like your whole life is perfectly put together. no, the only way to God is through putting your faith in Jesus Christ. this has nothing to do with how good you are. this has everything to do with how good Jesus is. I want you to know that the way to God is not complicated. you must simply put your faith in your Savior and if you've never done that, I'm gonna give you an opportunity to do that today. now then Jesus says live in me and then he starts painting this word picture of how he is like a vine and we are like branches connected to a vine. now I never really understood this verse about vineyards because I am NOT a farmer. I did not grow

up in vineyards. I grew up as a city kid. I grew up as a Chinese girl in the inner city of San Francisco in the 90s. so I know a lot about freestyling and Joe Montana and poker and mahjong. so that's kind of my expertise. I know nothing about vineyard growing. so the past few years I've been on a journey interviewing vineyard growers in Napa Valley, New Zealand, Portland and most recently in the hills of Tuscany. my husband Guy and I saved up for a while to go to Italy and we met a vineyard grower named Niccolo because of course his name was Niccolo. and I asked Niccolo if I wanted to start the best vineyard ever, what would my 10 perfect steps be? I want him to tell me the 10 perfect steps to build Vineyard because then I'm gonna apply that to this verse and try to figure out the ten perfect steps to be the perfect Christian So I asked him if I want the perfect vineyard, what are my next ten perfect steps? And he laughed at me and he said I do not have ten perfect steps for you He said instead I have a question for you He said what is your soil? Where are you starting from what are you made of he started pointing to different vineyards? And he said the soil at that vineyard is totally different from the soil at that other vineyard He said the soil at that vineyard has gone through more things than the soil at that other vineyard He said I can go to other vineyard growers and I can learn from them I can get wisdom from them and I should I should learn from people who have been growing longer than me He said but at one point I need to take all of their wisdom and apply it to my own Soil because it will not help my vineyard to just copy and paste what other vineyard growers did on soil I do not have he said at one point. I have to apply it to my Soil because every step after that will depend and my question to you today is what is your? soil What are you made of? Where are you from? What have you overcome? What is your lens of the church? What is your lens of God? What are your questions for God? What do you need from God today?

Because let me tell you there are people in this room who cannot imagine being from the soil that you are from there are people in this room who cannot imagine having to overcome some of the things that you have overcome and it will not help Your faith to just try to copy and paste someone else's relationship with God on soil You do not have at one point You have to take all of this wisdom and apply it to your soil Come to God as who you really are and invite him from where you're really starting from from your soil Here's the truth your relationship with God does not have to look like anyone else's Relationship with God and it doesn't have to look like it did years ago God wants to have a real Relationship with the real you in the current season. You're really in God wants to meet you in your soil and God wants to meet you in your season in Your season that you're in today You know, I've found that some of us we don't compare our relationship with God to other people's relationships with God Some of us we compare ourselves to a past version of ourselves Sometimes we think man when I was in that other season When I had that other group of friends at that other job when the kids were only this age When I had this much more time on my hands man that was the ideal time to spend time with God and some of us can feel all of this guilt and shame because we feel like we're not spending time with God the way we're supposed to when we're simply not spending time with God the way that we used to But let me tell you God wanted to have a real relationship with you then and he wants to have a real Relationship with you now There was something he had for you in that season and there's something he has for you today in this season You're in that you do not want to skip past I remember learning from Niccolo and he told me something about nurturing vineyards He said you must nurture your vineyard in the season It's actually in in the weather. It's actually in tend to it with what it really needs It's not gonna help you to tend to it as if it's in a season You wish it was in or as if it's in a season someone else is in he said only Tending to the connection of branches and a vine in this season

It's actually in with the weather it actually has with the limitations it actually has that is the only way for you to grow and to flourish and The same is true when it comes to our relationship with Jesus. Where are you really today? And I just want to speak really quickly to anybody who might be in a season of busyness That was the first roadblock that I listed throughout this series we will go through all six of these roadblocks, but I just want to speak specifically to anyone who might say I feel like my season of busyness is a roadblock to God You know, I have found this is really common with people. I speak to who are parents or have extreme responsibilities at school or at work and many people who have all of that and I've found that some of us Have completely divorced our real life from our God life Some of us see this as our real life. This is our work responsibility responsibilities, our family responsibilities, our kids, our parents, our piles of deadlines, our piles of laundry, and over here is our God life. Maybe this is something we imagine to be a totally quiet time alone with God for hours in a very serene space where you're not distracted at all. And of course if we have completely divorced these two lives, of course we feel all this guilt and shame when we feel too busy with our real life. We don't feel like we have enough time for our totally different, totally separate God life. But the truth is that the best way to have a real relationship with God is to have one in the middle of your real life. Your real life is your God life. You are not a cat. You do not have multiple lives. Why do we sometimes see being a loving parent, a loving child to our parents, an available friend, and a good leader at odds with following God? Has God not called you to those places and spaces? Has God not called you to love your family well? Has God not called you to work, to provide, to show up for the people in your life? My friends, in what ways has the enemy of our souls had victory in our lives by convincing us to feel all this guilt and shame, making us think we're too busy to spend time with God when we are in fact obeying God? In fact,

perhaps you're not in a season that's pulling you from God. Perhaps in this season God is pulling you in to experience him in a new way. Now certainly if you are too busy doing things that God has not called you to do, you must let go of those things. You must stop stretching yourself to have capacity for things God has not called you to have capacity for. You must stop running at a pace that God has not called you to run at. You must cease and desist living a life that is busy with all these things God has not called you to do. But if your life is full of doing things God has called you to do, keep obeying God and giving him lots of glory. In fact, I wonder if we might reframe these seasons where we have felt all this guilt and shame for busyness, doing what God has called us to do. I wonder if we might reframe these seasons of busyness as seasons of fullness. Fullness doing things God has called us to do. Fullness obeying God and what he's called us to do right now. Fullness and experiencing God in a new way, perhaps a way we never have before. I don't know what season you're in today, but here's a question for you. What might God be inviting you into right now in this season? What might God want to reveal to you in this fullness? How might you abide and rest and find your home in Jesus and nurture your connection with him in this season you're actually in right now? God wants to have a real relationship with you in your soil, in your season, and also with your specific personality. Someone in here today needs to know that your personality is not a roadblock between you and God. I remember when my husband Guy first brought me to his hometown of Grand Rapids, Michigan. Okay, we got some Michigan people in the house. Okay, there's more of you. Praise God. It was the first time I had ever been in a car with someone driving in the snow. He grew up driving in the snow. I grew up in San Francisco, California driving in no weather at all. So I had never seen this before and at one point we got to an intersection, a four-way stop, and a car started skidding out of control. And then all the cars around them just stopped

and no one was screaming at anybody and nobody was throwing up any kind of fingers. And I was shocked because you may know this but Californians aren't known for being the most chilled drivers ever. And I would go, what is happening? And then this car gets back control, makes a turn and just continues on its merry way and everyone just keeps driving peacefully. And I said, Guy, what just happened? And he said, you know, if you would have grown up in snow you would have known this. He said, it could be natural to think in a moment of chaos that you should turn the car in the opposite way that it's going. He said, but that would be the most dangerous thing to do. I see some of you nodding your head. Some of you have driven in snow before. He said, the best thing you can do is steer into the skid. steer into the natural way the car is going, the way the natural back tires are naturally going. He said that is actually the best thing to do for safety and for power. And you know the same is true when it comes to our relationship with God. Sometimes we think once we put our faith in Jesus, we have to be the exact opposite of the person we've been. We have to change our personality completely. And certainly God wants to save you of your sin and everything in your life that has made you less of who you really are. But to be clear, God made you with your personality. God made you wonderfully and uniquely and purposefully to enjoy him, to do good things, and to give him lots of glory. I want you to know your quirks are not a roadblock to your connection with God. Your learning style is not a roadblock to your connection with God. Your background, your personality are not roadblocks. No, they're shortcuts. They're pathways to deeper connection. The best thing you can do to spend real time with God is to steer into the skid of your real personality and enjoy God in the unique way that he made you. When I had those thousand conversations, I didn't just ask people about their roadblocks. I also asked people about the unique ways they have found to encounter God. And I discovered seven unique ways that people all over the world

encountered God in different kinds of worship styles. And then I started finding examples of these different kinds of ways to worship God all throughout the Bible. In the Old Testament, the first part of the Bible. In the New Testament, the second part of the Bible. And then I started seeing people do it in different seasons, with different personalities, in their different family dynamics. Then I saw examples of Jesus Christ himself worshiping God in all of these different ways. And I want to unpack for you these seven different worship styles and see if perhaps you relate to any of them being a natural bent for you. Now, I want to tell you right now we're gonna unpack them. I decided to call them your praise-onality. Kind of like your personality, but the way that you praise God. Before we dive into them, I want you to know this is not like a personality test. Like you are only one of these things. You can only be one of these things. This is not meant to box you in. This is meant to set you free. And it's likely that you and your friends are different praise-onalities. You and your spouse might worship God differently. You and your kids might worship God differently. And this is a good thing about all of us. In fact, I believe we will worship God throughout all of these ways throughout our lives. I believe we are all many of them. But I want to start giving you some examples of ways you might be naturally wired to encounter God. Now, all of these are found in Scripture. I don't have time today to unpack all of the passages. I unpack more in my book, Uncomplicated. But for today, I'm gonna leave a few references for you. So you can take a picture of every single one of them, read them later, fact-check me later, and start engaging in your natural way. So as I unpack all seven, I want you to think of which one you might be. This could be a great thing to ask people after church too, which one they resonated with. Here's the first one, the recreationalist. This may be you. If you engage with God best through the outdoors or through movement, perhaps going on a walk or on a hike or working out at the gym. I have a lot of friends who are recreationalists. I know because they're always inviting me to go camping with them. And they're all very outdoorsy and I am very indoorsy. I like

to subscribe to the theology of the great poets in the 90s, TLC. Don't go chasing waterfalls? I believe in that. I will not chase those waterfalls. I am not a recreationalist, but my husband is. He loves listening to the Bible on audiobook while he walks or goes on hikes. Hey, if you enjoy that, this might be you. The second is the beholder of beauty. This may be you if you encounter God best through beautiful things, perhaps through a portrait or a photo or going to a museum. Whether you are creating things or enjoying other created things, created things literally make you feel closer to your creator. The third is the soul fire. This may be you if you engage with God best through outward expressions of worship, perhaps raising your hands or having a dance party in your kitchen. Now, it's important to note that not everybody is a soul fire and you might come into a worship environment and see how other people are outwardly expressing their worship to God and you might think, oh, that looks a bit much. That looks a bit performative or maybe even a little fake. And if you are not a soul fire, It might be fake for you, but for a soul fire, holding it in would be the most fake thing they can do. Sometimes they're just squirming in their seats ready to raise their hands again or clap again. And if you're a soul fire, we certainly never wanna be distracting or dishonoring in any environment we're in. And also, you were created that way. You must find time to turn up music loud in your car and sing along or have a dance party in your kitchen to the glory of God. The fourth one is the sacred space seeker. This might be you if you encounter God best through sacred traditions, through practicing holy practices,

being in sacred buildings, practicing communion or Lent. It's important to note we never wanna worship traditions more than we worship God. And we never wanna misunderstand traditions thinking that we must do them to be saved because we are only saved by God's grace through putting our faith in Jesus. But for some of us, having a structure might help us make space to spend real time with God. And if you can do that without legalism, without shame, without misunderstanding, thinking that you have to do that to be saved, for some of us, you might be a sacred space seeker and you need to make space in your life to have some holy practices. The fifth is the interior expert. This does not mean you're an expert at yourself, but this does mean that you are naturally introspective. You engage with God best through silence and solitude. Your sacred space is whenever you have a solo space. If you are an interior expert, you likely have a bent towards nostalgia. Playing certain music might literally bring you back to a time in your life, reminding you of the faithfulness of God. You might have a bent towards writing things down or journaling. Sixth is the thoughts myth. This doesn't mean you have to be the smartest person

in the room or the most educated, but this means you engage with God best when you engage with your mind. Perhaps finding a fun fact about God or history, or maybe one day Pastor Jud is preaching through a passage you've heard before, but then you see something in it you've never seen, or you're reading the Bible and you see something you've never seen, and like a light bulb goes off in your mind and fires ignited in your bones, for you geeking out might be a spiritual practice. If that's you, you might be a thoughts myth. And finally, the seventh one is the artist of people. This might be you if portraits are not your canvas, but people are your canvas. And perhaps having conversations with people literally make you feel closer to God. Artists of people tend to have a bent towards hospitality. They're the ones throwing the dinner parties or perhaps putting on the trivia nights, which I would love to come. I don't have to play on a team, but still invite me. I'll bring the snacks. If you're an artist of people, you might also have a bent towards service. You love to serve. You love to volunteer. Being with people and serving people literally makes you feel closer to God.

Now, here's what I need to say about all seven of these things. We never wanna worship the way that we worship. Like we never wanna misunderstand these and think, well, cause I'm a thoughts myth, I never serve anybody, or because I'm a recreationalist, I'm never gonna raise my hands anytime. Jesus actually worshiped God all these ways. God calls us to worship him in all these ways throughout our life. We're called to serve, to lift our hands and lift our voices, to spend time in God's word, though that might look different depending on what season you're in. Spending alone time with God, though that might look different depending on what season you're in. God calls us to do all of these things. We never wanna worship the way we worship more than we worship God. When you seek God, you will find God in any environment that you're in. But also, I just wanna encourage anyone today who might feel stuck in your faith. You need something fresh in your faith, a real encounter with God today. Maybe you feel stuck or maybe your faith has felt stale. I wanna encourage you to steer into the skin of the way you've been wired in the way that would actually bring your soul to life.

Maybe you need to pick a passage in the Bible and just geek out about that passage for the rest of the month. Or maybe get a group of friends and say, we're gonna volunteer together or we're gonna go through this part of the Bible together. I don't know what it is for you, but this is what I hope you take from today's message. If faith has ever been spoken to you about, if anyone has ever made you feel like faith is complicated, I am so sorry. I am so sorry for the ways we, as Christians, at times have made faith and God and our relationship with God seem too complicated. This is the truth, the way to have a. real relationship with God, it's not through putting faith in yourself, it's through putting faith in your Savior. It's not through coming to God as someone else or someone you think you need to be, it's through coming to God in your real soil. It's not through pretending you're in a different season or waiting until you're in a more ideal season. It's about inviting God into the season you're actually in and enjoying Him in your specific personality, in your real schedule this week. And I believe when we do that, when we are able to receive God's grace for our season and pass that grace on to the other people in our lives in their seasons and celebrate the different ways that we encounter God, I believe we can be people and families and a church who are all having a real intimate and organic relationship with God in all of our seasons. This especially applies to my outdoorsy friends. Please stop inviting me to camp with you in the name of Jesus. Can I pray for you? I want to pray for two groups of people today. I want to pray for one group of people, the first group who's saying, I want to put my faith in Jesus. Maybe you've never put your faith in Jesus for real before or maybe you've stepped away and today you want to come back. In a second, I'm going to invite you to raise your hand and I'm going to lead you in a simple, uncomplicated prayer. And then while your hands are raised, I'm going to

invite a second group to raise their hands as well. I'm in this second group and I want to invite this second group to join us at that point and raise your hands. If you're just saying, hey, maybe you've already put your faith in Jesus, but you're just saying, God, I invite you into my current season where I really am. Come be real to me. Show me something new right now. Would you bow your heads with me? If you're here today and you're in the first group saying, I want to put my faith in Jesus, would you just raise your hand and keep it raised so I can see you and know to include you in this prayer? I see you, sir. I see you, family. Keep your hands raised. If you're putting your faith in Jesus today, all you have to do is mean it in your heart and just say to Jesus right now, say, Jesus, I believe in you. I believe you died and rose again. I turn away from my sin and my shame. I'm following you forever. Keep your hands raised. I'm going to invite the second group to add on. If you're in the second group saying, God, I invite you into my current season, would you just raise your hands high? Anyone who's saying, God, I invite you into this season I'm actually in right now, keep your hands high. I want to include all of us in this prayer. God, you see our hands raised. You know what season we're actually in. We put our faith in you. We turn away from our sin. And God, we invite you to come and be the Lord and leader of our lives right now where we really are in the name of Jesus. And if you agree with me, will you say amen? Amen and amen. Hey, let's celebrate with everybody who made the choice to put their faith in Jesus. At this time, I'm going to pass it on to all of our location pastors.