Meet the VL Team! Why Do We Do What We Do?

Okay well hey everybody this is our BL team some of them are missing today and but we're glad that we're all here together we have an event and we're also doing some training Sheridan's gonna give us some training so we just wanted one to be able to show y'all who your BL team is and some of the things that that we want to share with you today so I want everybody I'm gonna start with with you Christy and you're gonna say your name and what you do here at Victorious Living Ministries and then kind of share how you quickly all of us because we have a lot to say but how we got into prison ministry and why what's your why why do we keep doing this well my name is Christy God just invited me behind bars through a simple visit with a incarcerated friend and that's my why because once I went behind bars and I saw the humanity behind bars I saw the incredible power of a visit and what it did for a person's soul for them to be remembered by someone on the outside it did something to me and God showed me his undeniable love for those that were incarcerated in their families and so when I saw that I had a choice either go in or run and I ran in and I'm so glad that I did because it brought this amazing group together and my why is I love being the hands and feet of Jesus I think it is a purpose that I was looking for for my whole life and when I go in I get blessed more than those that I go to visit and it's something that is fueled to my fire and how could you not want to keep going working with all these peeps thank you Ashley is it my turn okay my name is Sheridan Korea and I am the director of healing and restoration initiatives and how I got into prison ministry I was formerly incarcerated and was dealing with addiction and homelessness and lost custody of my children and all that great stuff so coming out of it and meeting Christ and he gave me a calling on my life to go back and help those who are still in it and I've been walking with the Lord for nine years and out of incarceration and and clean and sober for nine years out of addiction and and walking in freedom and healing and wholeness in Jesus name and my why is you know for others to know God for others to know the reality that you don't have to stay where you are and your story isn't over what you are in right now in prison and in

incarceration or addiction like that's not it that it's not the end game and that God can do incredible things and restore and heal you and give you purpose like for your life and so to he's done that for me and so I want to be able to show others and help others see the way out be a light out of the darkness and show them the way out like he did for me and it's not what Christ did for us when he came out of the tomb all scarred up and scratched up and said look I made it I made it out and so you can too and that's that's my why and it's just the highest privilege and the highest honor to do that well and what so sweet is that y'all come from two different stories two different walks of life and yet you're doing the same thing and you're loving on on people that need Jesus like we all do we all need Jesus inside or outside prison walls and jail walls but yet at the same time you get to do that together and y'all would have never met right any other circumstance but for that yeah and that's what's the other thing is that all of us I think when we think about how we are connected to each other even the way that we get to to here is it wouldn't have happened no and we get to learn from each other yeah like we push each other we learn from each other I learned from every single person sitting in right seats and so iron sharpens iron and it's important to surround yourself with people that are like-minded and that was one thing when we built the team I didn't want to carry out this why alone I needed people who had the same why and we all got here we have a little different why but the ultimate why is because Jesus touched us yes and we are bound by that even though we do have different walks of life and we're humble and willing to learn from each other yeah yeah we all have different paths but we share the same passion which is just fire. It's just, you can't get better than that. So it all, it binds us together. All right, Militia, you're up. Hi, I'm Militia, and I am a ministry partner with Victorious Living.

And I, too, am a formerly incarcerated person. Definitely struggled with my identity, knowing my worth, felt no love, worthless. And I do what I do is because I don't want other people to go through what I went through. If I can help that person not repeat that cycle of incarceration and get to know who you really are in Christ, that's what I feel like my mission is to do, to help them not to go through everything that, you know, some of the things that I went through, you know, because, you know, because I struggled for years, for so long, and I hated my life, I hated who I was, and I know God had a better plan for me. So if I can just use my story or use what I've been through to help somebody else so they won't go through the same situation that I went through, so they can be the best person that God has called them to be, then that's what I wanna do. And I wanna just constantly just share, talk to them, let them know they're loved, they're worth it, they're valued, and that there's more for them. Melissa, we need that outside, even if we're not in, formerly incarcerated. Like, I struggled with that. I mean, even now, I think there's times where the devil seeps in and just tells us the lies

and just really just twists it. And it's just those little things. We were talking last night at dinner and we were just talking about, it might not be a big thing, it's the little things that the enemy does each day. And to try to turn us into, well, we've just gone off the whole different way, and so it says little things. So I need that too. Encourage me as well. Yes, we gotta start taking hold to those thoughts that the enemy tried to plant. And take hold to it, cap it, and just get to know the word of God so God's word can do what he does. And that's changed our lives. It does. Amen. Yeah, that's good. Hey, I'm BJ. I think I'm the digital media manager, something. Just one. Along those lines. He's like, I do something around here. I'm here because I saw the transformation of someone in prison that was remarkable, that went from darkness to light, that I witnessed this powerful move of God in this person's life,

and I started seeing the fruit of the Holy Spirit, which I didn't understand at the time, the love, joy, peace, coming out of this individual. And this person was facing 76 years for a string of crimes, and he happened to be my father. And so I grew up as the child of an incarcerated parent most of my teenage years. My father was in prison in a really hopeless-looking situation, and I wanted to cut down my family tree because it was a wreck. My grandfather had abandoned his children, and so it was really dark. It was really dark, and I thought that I needed my father through all those years, that he wasn't there. But as it turns out, later I would have my own dark time in my life. God was preparing him, and doing a work in him, because he knew later he would be there for me when I was broken. And we were restored. There's not a lot of people I think, or at least that I've met, that have seen the full cycle restoration of three generations and their family, and I witnessed that in a powerful way.

That's why I'm here. And I'm honored to be working with all of you. I appreciate all of you. PJ, thank you for sharing that. We should have brought our tissues. I always have some, so I pulled them out of my pocket, but we all should have had them here, so that we'll start. Oh, look at him. He's brought them here. I'm gonna do them, because we're all gonna maybe need them. We're gonna start. Pass them around. Pass them around. My name is Lauren. I'm the director of Inmate Correspondence, and I never thought this would be on my radar. I didn't think I would be here. Chrissy and I have been friends for probably 15 years. And it's kind of cool how the Lord put it on my heart to be a part. Originally, I thought I was volunteering to help respond to the incarcerated. Turns out, a couple weeks into volunteering, there was a position open. So I've been here for about three years now, and I think my why and why I've stuck with it is because the team, number one,

Chrissy is truly spirit-led, and it's really incredible to watch a leader just all in, follow the Lord, and it inspires me daily, challenges me daily. But I think also just seeing the letters that come in through all of the different facilities. across the U.S., it's really humbling to just hear them pour their hearts out, to know that there are incarcerated in solitary confinement that may or may not have any family or friends. Burned bridges don't, you know, just don't have any relationship or contact. To know that we can respond to them, our team of volunteers can write a letter to them and send them encouragement and hope, and it goes way beyond more than we could think or imagine. I mean, like Ashley said, on this side of prison walls, we need encouragement on a regular basis. How much more would somebody in solitary confinement need it? And the fact that we get the opportunity and the privilege to do that. And Lauren, what's cool is that we have volunteers that share how much this is their blessing and how much they get from it, and how much it just, again, it's never a coincidence of what God does. The people that are responding are the people that need it. We had a volunteer, and I know that you know her, she had lost her husband years ago, ten years ago, and one day she was responding to a letter and it was somebody who had just lost their husband, and she said, Ashley, this is ten years to the day that I lost my husband. It just gives me chills because I'm like, and this is, God did this. She goes, I'm the only one that would be able to write to that person and respond and to tell the situation. And she said, and that's, I mean, that's the kind of stuff, all of the things that this ministry does, everything is so purposeful. And like you said about Christi, walking in the steps of the Lord and being spirit-led, but it's just amazing how all of those little things are like the dots. If we could connect them all together, it creates that circle of all the things that the ministry started with the magazine, but now we have this, and we have this, and we have this, and it all

comes together to create such an organic, just moving, what is the biology term? Y'all help me, like, we're an organism. We're an organism. And I mean, and I think the incredible part about all of us being together is that, one, we wanted to do this together so that y'all could see that we have fun. We love each other. We're able to laugh and cry and be real. And I still remember what Militia said sometime last year when you were like, I can come and talk to these people and be with them, and it's such a real authenticity. And that's what we want. We want y'all to see that we have fun, we pick on each other, we laugh, but yeah, and we cry. I pointed at Carla because Carla and I, we love each other, but we pick on each other, and they laugh at us here in the office, but it's just one of those things that, and even that we're not all together, I think that's another thing. We don't live in the same place, but yet we can still do it. We connected. Yes. All right, Carla, you're up. Hi, I'm Carla, and I am the administrative director. I'm also Christie's executive assistant. My why? I don't know. I should not be in prison ministry, and now I'm gonna get the papers. I was in a very dark place during COVID, and the world got sent home 2020, 2020, March, and very dark place, very depressed, and I was flipping through the internet one day, and I found a post that somebody had shared from Christie. I knew about Christie from her water ski career, hadn't heard about her in years, didn't know anything about the ministry, and I said, hmm, wonder what this girl's doing, and that led me to where we are today. So I clicked on her, and I started reading about the ministry, and started following her post on Facebook, and I sent an email to Mr. Pat, and I said, don't know what I can do, but I feel like the Lord is leading me to volunteer for this ministry. Never had a speeding ticket in my life, okay. Don't know anything about the incarcerated, have never had any criminal issues. I don't belong in this area, but you don't have to belong in that world to belong in this world. So, Mr. Pat called me, long story short, I started volunteering with correspondents. Christie called and said, can you help me with some office stuff, and I said, sure. That led to

to being the Director of Correspondence for just a short time till Lauren took over. And now I am blessed to be able to work with these people every day. And my why I come back is because I love what I do and I get to see the humanity behind bars every time we go in. And y'all, Carla, when we go in locally, sometimes I get to go locally to our detention center here. And I thought that I was fun in the office. Not everybody, like I said, works in our office. But I thought that I brought a lot of fun to the table. But yet, I go into the detention center with Carla and we're sitting there with the men's group. And she is just full of joy and she's laughing and she's like, her face just lights up. And I was like, well, one, I got insulted just for a minute. But two, it's just that other thing. Like, her why is she loves it in a space that, and oh my gosh, they just love it. The men and women love it when she comes. And so, it fills her heart and it feels, what is it? It feels the love tank and it feels theirs. And I think that's the other thing is when you have joy and passion, you can't hide that. Like, people can see it on your face when you're talking about it, when you share, when you go in. And so, Carla has that, y'all. Get it, JC. You're up. Hi, JC.

I don't know, what am I? Am I the muscle for the team? The hit man? Security detail? What can I say? I grew up in a very bad place, very dark. Just got into, my whole identity was violence my whole life. And I ended up in very dangerous places because of that. And I never thought I would be here, surrounded by white people. Melissa? Except for a girl. But I'm very grateful and blessed to be surrounded by you guys. You guys have given me a sense of belonging and family. I love the boss. I've always been a warrior. We're going to get her a shirt. I'm going to get her a shirt. I'm going to get her a shirt. I'm going to get her a shirt. I'm going to get her a shirt. We're going to get her a shirt. You know, it's just great to follow someone that is just God-led. And I'm just ready to go into war for her. My why? Because I know those dark places. Because I know the stabbings. Because I know what those places do to your identity.

And it's why I go back in. Oh, there's so much more to JC than that. But that was just a glimpse. My name is Pat. And I'm from Florida. And I started working with Christy back February 1, 2019. And this ministry has come a long way since 2019. I met her in Florida. 2020, she moved back to North Carolina. But I believe that God had a plan there. Because the ministry got out of the state of Florida. Now we have people like JC from Arizona, Sheridan from Georgia, Militia from Georgia, Randy's from Florida, North Carolina. We're just scattered all over the United States. And we are truly a national ministry, and hopefully an international ministry. But I've had, I think, five or six titles since I've started working with this ministry. Right now, my title, I believe, is Prison Liaison and Pastorial Care Director. You can be whatever. You just be whatever. You be what you want to be. But I answer our phones that come to our ministry. And I have the privilege of praying for incarcerated men and women that call our ministry line. They can actually call from their jail cells or their prison cells on their tablets now. And they can call me for 15 minutes, 14 of those minutes.

I listen to them, share what's going on in their life. And the final minute, I get to pray them out. I get to pray for them and the needs that they have. Also, hear from their family members, their family. Family members will call me for encouragement and support. And then we do prison tours and prison ministry inside the prisons, jails and detention centers all over the United States. So, my job as prison liaison is to talk and speak with chaplains, assistant wardens, wardens and just work out all the details and get the paperwork done and the training that we have to do to line up those prison events. And I believe in 2025, we were in well over 60 prisons and did 109 programs inside of prisons in Arizona, Texas, Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, just all over the United States. So, it's a joy to be a part of this ministry. The reason I became part of this ministry is because Christy called me up one day and said, meet me at Marion Correctional Institution. We're going into prison. And I'm like, okay. So, I met her there and we went into Marion Correctional Institution, a maximum security prison for men in Ocala, Florida. And I think I've been back to that place, I don't know, maybe 50 or 100 times since then. But, you know, it's a joy to work with this group right here. I know them all. I know their story.

I know their testimony. I know that God sent them to be a part of this ministry. It just wasn't by accident. You don't come in and fill out an application and apply and then we go through those applications and choose you. You come here because God sent you to us and we know that. And it's just evident and you become a part of our team. So, what a joy to work with these people here today. What a joy and a pleasure to have a mighty woman of God, not only a champion athlete but a champion for Christ as our founder. So, I could go on and on but I'll just stop right there, Ashley, and hand the mic to our friend and podcaster for our ministry, Randy Claypool. Okay. I was just going to hand it back to you because I tend to be very shy and reserved and quiet. So, here I am talking towards the end of all of this listening to all of you wondering what I'm going to say. Tissue. Good session. Good session. Love it. This is trauma-informed care. This is trauma-informed care. So, this guy next to me over here, Pat Avery, I met him in a few months. It will have been 40 years ago. And of course you all know I say over and over again I was a little boy when I met him.

But he called me up a couple of years ago and asked me if I wanted to go into prison with him and speak. And the first time I went was to that place you just mentioned. Yeah. And after talking to Christy a little bit, there was this whole idea of being disqualified. You see, I've never been incarcerated behind the wire. But I can say there's been some things in life that I have been incarcerated to. Some challenges, some decisions I've made. And in auto racing, as I spent 26 years in auto racing and the PR and the ownership and different things. But there's a sense of rules and regulations and a very little tolerance. I had wonderful parents but there was that other training, college, etcetera, etcetera. It became very rigid. And I lost a sense of reality and a sense of qualification and a sense of value that I could be used. And so what blew me away, they called me up to say a few things. And what I talked about was that, like, whoa, this is so authentic. You guys are so real. And there's the no judgment zone. And a long time ago, I heard someone say, Christianity is not a medicine we take for ourselves. It simply spills on us as we rush it to others. And that's what I'm enjoying doing. You know, rushing it to others.

and being able to try to identify or understand what they're feeling or what they're going through. But I noticed in being a pastor, a youth pastor, Pat, you've been there. It's, the number one thing is trying to get somebody to understand they need Jesus, that they're a sinner, that they've done wrong. And guess what? In prison, you kind of know that, right? You know, you've encountered judge and jury and you know, you just got to admit, I'm a sinner. And that's why I love it so much because that's out of the way. You know, it's just a matter of being able to encourage, rush that medicine, that hope, that joy, that encouragement. And so that's my story and I'm sticking to it. Hi, my name is Julie Seals and I'm the creative content manager for Victorious Living. I'm brand new to the team, excited to be here. And I met Christy Overton Johnson when she brought a team into Baker Reentry Center in Sanderson, Florida, which is the prison where my husband is a chaplain. And we connected and we stayed in contact. And then a couple of weeks later, I asked her to pray for me because I was looking for a job. And she said, girl, I've got you. Well, I have been looking for jobs, but God, I could tell that the Lord was like not wanting,

He wasn't releasing me to do these other jobs. Well, one day I drove to Bridges of America in Lake City and I was going to go in there and get a part-time chaplain job, but a car was on fire in the parking lot and the police were blocking it off as I was trying to drive in there. So I figured, well, okay, Lord, I'm not supposed to have that job. And so yes, the next morning, Christy called me and invited me to create content for the magazine. I gave my life to Jesus Christ in federal prison after 17 years of alcohol and meth addiction. I had reached rock bottom. I had lost custody of my son. I had lost everything in life. And a volunteer came into the prison and she told me, she sat on my bunk and said, did you know that Jesus loves you very much? And I started crying and I said, not me. And she kept insisting that no matter what I had done, that Jesus Christ died on the cross and paid the penalty so that I could be forgiven and become a new creation and have a real relationship with him on what society calls the wrong side of the razor wire fence. I felt hope rise in my heart. And so that night while all the other ladies were off eating dinner in the prison,

I stayed behind and I knelt down at my bunk and I repented of my sin, which means I asked Jesus to forgive me. And I turned my back on running with the devil and I turned towards Jesus. And that was 25 years ago. And I was facing a life sentence. And I told God, if you let me out, I will spend the rest of my life going back in and telling people who think all hope is gone, that Jesus died to set them free and give them a new life. And I had more freedom. I was free for the first time ever on what society calls the wrong side of the razor wire fence. I was free. I was full of joy. I was running around telling the guards, I'm gonna do life in prison, but I'm gonna go to college. I'm gonna do all these things because I was free on the inside. So it didn't matter where I was. I was free. And so that's why I go into prisons. I've been doing prison ministry for 20 years. And now I get to do it with the most incredible team in the world. Okay, I'm Ashley Smith. And thank you all for sharing.

That was so just real. I loved it. And I love that we got our tissues now. We can do it. I work, I never thought I'd work in prison ministry. I've told y'all that, because unless you're Christy, then you don't pick it. And I wasn't. Again, God placed it and just there in who I was. So we, I knew Christy and in my background of foundations and developments, nonprofits, we had been talking and we kind of just talked about what that would look like for me to come work with the ministry. And I'll tell you, I started working for the ministry and it wasn't, it wasn't like I loved it right away. I have a passion for people, but over time, it's like I was talking to somebody today and she was like, well, do you love it? And I said, yeah, I do. I said, God, just, it's the only place,

only non-profit, and I've done it for 18 years, that I've gotten to see the love and redemption and transformation of Jesus every day. I've worked at a church, I've worked at a community college, I've worked with other small non-profits, and there's something about that, seeing the letters, going in and seeing the people, seeing the stories on the podcast and the broadcast and in the magazine, that really show that we all know that we need Jesus. And I was telling my friend this morning, and this is just, it's funny that I was telling her about this and we're doing this today, but I was telling her about one of the letters that we'd received and just about that and what happened and all of that, and that I was also telling my son. It happened to be a story that two people should have never been together, but this guy was writing us, telling us he had found Jesus and forgiveness and all of that, and just the anger that he had in his heart and how it went away. And so I share a lot about my job with my children because I want them to know, one, that we as a society, like you said, you've already been judged and juried. We as a society, especially if you've never been incarcerated, I've never been incarcerated, there is that kind of off-putting list, like, well, that's not for me, or those people, you know, they've done wrong,

but then you get to experience it, and it's like, oh my gosh, it's just, it fills your soul, and so I try to share a lot about what I do with my children and just how, really, Jesus. And so I was telling them about this letter and I was telling my friend that, and she said, Noah, my oldest son, about this situation, two people that should have never been together, and the letter that I'm not gonna tell too much because I don't wanna, you know, go against my riskiness, but anyway, and how my son said, what a coincidence. And I said, no, that's God. And he said, but why would God care about that one? And I said, exactly. And I shared with her about last year when y'all went to Arizona and it wasn't a huge crowd, but there's that one. And so every day, I guess my why, I get back to my own question, is yes, especially as a person who's trying to raise money for the ministry and I want big, showy numbers and I wanna tell, oh, we've reached this many and we've reached this many, but at the end of the day, it is about that one. It's about the one Militia, the one Sheridan, even the one Ashley, and that's our God and that's how he loves and that's how he cares, and so that's my why that I keep going.

Yeah, and what I love about you is you've raised a lot of money over the years and all different non-profits and things, but how excited you get when a quarter is sent in, a quarter from an incarcerated person. I guess it comes through a check for 25 cents? This time it was an actual quarter. And you open that up and she's running around with tears. We got this quarter today and it is just so amazing because it is so appreciated and we don't lose the wonder of that because that quarter is a testimony because it reminds me of the widow's mites and that lady gave all that she had and Jesus put her, made sure she was in the Bible and she was remembered and she still talked about the day because she gave all she had. And God will take that quarter and that quarter will be used for many things. It might send pages of a magazine in or it'll send, it will actually pay the postage for a magazine at our non-profit rate that then will go forward and reach 10 plus lives. And so, I love it. That's the full circle. We have people who were formerly incarcerated or incarcerated now see the value of that and they are sending donations to the ministry and it's, I love to share that with people because it is like, it's the full circle.

And then we have people who have given while they're in, then they come out and they're still giving and it's like, this changed my life. Not about us changed the life, but about the product that God is using us to produce is changing their life. The next question is. It gives us time. Yeah, it gives us time. The next question is, we're gonna tell y'all because again, not everybody is with us. We do have some team or some other volunteers that aren't here and we do love all of them, but we wanna share with y'all something that maybe you don't. know about us or something fun or silly or just telling everybody about what we're doing and so share about maybe something that we don't we don't know about you. My favorite thing to say about me and you know and these ladies and and gentlemen they've heard it a million times but you know probably the most precious thing I have in the world is this is that I'm you know I've been married 48 years to the same woman amen and she is the mother of my six children three boys three girls and I have 13 grandchildren and hopefully I'm going to have more so that's one thing about me and then I just revealed a little bit earlier that some of these people didn't know it I don't think Christy knew it that I traveled eight years with a professional quartet and recorded music yeah give it a give us a little bit not on the thing you got acapella oh maybe today maybe tomorrow I'm gonna leave this world of sorrow gonna fly away hey okay yeah I don't know that was good Randy has seen our quartet in concert so he can he can attest to that but that was the brothers quartet out of Daytona Beach Florida actually and we'd get up here to North Carolina occasionally so I guess that's pretty much it yeah and I want you to tell yeah about your your taplancy oh I thought you wanted me to do a deity summoner since we were on the quartet thing and I met Pat fast forward and there was another friend of his

in town at Daytona we were at a Bob Evans across from the Daytona International Speedway and having breakfast and just in casual conversation the guest that Pat had there asked me about racing and NASCAR etc etc hadn't really thought about it I love the sport I love watching it I grew up watching Richard Petty and and the Daytona 500 with my father I thought that was the only race the whole year so it was interesting but anyway this gentleman entered introduced me to a man who had started a chaplaincy program for NASCAR named Max and I started working with Max in 1989 early on for a number of years and and became was a chaplain to the NASCAR program which expanded and spread I ended up being very closely involved with what was known as the goodies dash series ended up being a part of an ownership of that it's it's uh was a real challenge and uh but anyway yeah I yeah the whole the whole NASCAR background I spent 26 years public relations being a spokesperson in that situation with NASCAR it was very interesting you working for Bill France yeah yeah sort of like yeah kind of like under the umbrella all right JC so anyway JC Varum okay Varum that's what we do in racing hit it the the the room nobody knows about me well everybody knows my story online so I might have to go deep deep deep and if anybody makes fun of me no judgment okay so back in my day in high school I was a real known gang member on the street they used to call me Brazer that was my nickname Brazer yeah and uh I was I was very much in love with dance I used to like to dance okay so I would have to wait after school in high school for all the gang members to leave so I could step into my dance class oh my gosh this is so good what kind of dance was it no it was hip-hop the running man you know yeah you're asking for a lot okay it wasn't like the moonwalk no I don't know oh my goodness this is This makes me so excited, so happy I don't know what to do. You remember marking the funky butts? Yes, come on, come on. Whoa. Let me see what I've got. Oh! Woo!

Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! Woo! You're running man. Oh, my god. I love it. Yes, sir! Oh, my god. Oh, that's what running man. Oh, that was so good. Carla, Carla, can you beat that? There will be nothing to beat that. Oh, my god, that was so good. Yeah. Oh, that was cute, Cher. That was so awesome. You spent two hours with me in the car? What? I'm passionate chickens. Oh, yeah, I know. I don't know, mine's kind of unusual. I mean, not unusual, but I'm just a big sports fan. I love to watch football. So. Football or all sports? I like all sports, but really football's my favorite. College or? More college, but I do watch occasional pro,

but I just like a good game. Do you scream at the TV? I do. That's why I can't watch football with my mama, because she screams at me when I scream at the TV. I feel like this isn't a secret. Well, I mean, I guess for the majority is. I love to garden. I love being in the dirt, playing in the dirt. I have over 130 peonies type of flower and 40-something roses. And so this is my favorite time of the year, spring. I once went around in a dryer 169 times. Oh, my goodness. I'm sorry. You got in the dryer? I did not. Oh, yeah. Like a dryer, like the clothes that dry. Don't try this at home. It was a commercial dryer at a laundromat, and this was under my father's supervision before he went to prison. And I was really short, so you could kind of wedge yourself in there. And my brother held the button, and we had to count. You know, you had to put some clothes in there, because it would get hot. And so 169 times. That is very risky. Yeah, don't do that.

Yes, on purpose. How did you count 169? You counted how many? Yeah, you count. Wait a minute. This doesn't seem possible. That's not real. Fake news. Hashtag fake news. A lot of questions here. Do not do that at home. No, that's fake. That can't be real. This is your legal notice. We do not condone any sex. And BJ, most of the posts that you're posting are 200 laps. So you quit before the end. Oh, my gosh. Melissa, did you also get in a dryer and do? No, I didn't get in a dryer. But I will say, no judgment zone, right, y'all? OK? All right, so y'all know I've been incarcerated. And it wasn't for drugs. So my drug of choice, though, was baby powder. For four years in prison, I would eat baby powder. Yeah, I don't know. No judgment zone, y'all. Don't talk about me. Don't talk about me.

So I don't know why I don't have an answer to it, other than I've been delivered now. Yes, yes, yes. Praise the Lord. I have more questions about that. But it'll be on another show. We'll talk about it on another show. That's right. OK, so I'm going to give three. But they're real quick. I only have one kneecap. I won Miss Congeniality in the Miss Utah pageant. You did? I did. And the swimsuit competition. And then I ate cat food as a child. That's not good. She had to add that after she heard baby powder. She was like, let me help this girl out because everybody's judging her. I don't have good stuff like y'all have. So thrift storing, thrifting is my favorite thing to do. It is my mental therapy. And when I go on prison tours, these men can all attest because they hate it. But I got my girl that'll go with me and we will thrift. And most of what I wear are thrift store finds. And I have to take a lot of pride in my finds. Something that very few will know is that I really don't like being under the water. I was a professional water skier. But I'm scared to death of oceans.

I do not like bridges. I don't like long piers. I'm always afraid I'm going to fall in. I was a professional water skier, not a swimmer. And so I think that's why I'm a really good swimmer. skier because I did not like all the critters in the water and all that kind of stuff. I'm just trying to get out, stay on top, and get me the trophy. I like the trophies that much. So, anyway, yeah. And I cannot dance at all. I have no rhythm except for going around ski buoys. And my husband says that I look like Elaine on Seinfeld. So, and my children. I want to demonstrate. Prove it. Prove it. Prove it. Prove it. And so if I lead worship, I love to sing. I want to be a singer. And if I lead worship, my kids tell me, mom, don't move. And try not to clap because I clap off. And yeah, so it's really bad. So something others don't know about me is that I have one leg. Usually, people meet me and I'm walking around fine. And they don't know I have one leg until I tell them. I tried to scare my husband off by telling him I only had one leg.

But it didn't work. And so we've been married 20 years. Something else others might not know about me, I have a really bad addiction to candy. But it's better than alcohol and mess. So I'm really not too worried about it. Well, a lot of y'all probably know this. Y'all might not know this, that I'm very tall. I'm six feet tall. So I fall a lot. So I trip. I fall. I just have a lot of issues with height, I guess. Because you're dizzy up there or what? You know, I don't. Maybe. Maybe. You know how the higher you get up is the air is thin. And so when you're this tall, it's like. It's cold and thin. Uh-huh, it's cold and thin. That's why I'm cold. And so then you get up there and it's like, whoo! And I just come down. We can attest to that. I'll throw out another fact. It can be 80 degrees and she'll walk in with a beanie and a snuggie on. It's cold outside. In your months.

Yes. I don't like the cold. And so one time I was doing something and I had on my toboggan. And Christy's like, is that? Please don't wear that to the meeting. And I was like, I'm going to take it off. But it's cold going in and out. So yes, I have my heater on because I'm always cold. In fact, my bed, I have a heated blanket just on my side because my husband Chris is like, it's so hot in here. So that. OK, that's good. OK, but we're just. We hope that y'all enjoyed our show today. We had fun. And so anybody want to say anything else before we. I just want to point out that it is a fact that women laugh more than men. That's a fact. OK, yeah, it was obvious today is a good example. And also women live longer than men because they laugh so much. But just think about it. You women wouldn't be able to live as long if it wasn't for us men. The laugh act. Well, we just we love y'all. And we are thankful for you all because we're able to do what we love because of you. And so thank you so much.

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