Patrick Lencioni on Finding Joy When It Doesn’t Come Naturally & Unpacking Effective Leadership

Today, we’re celebrating episode #250 on The Conversation Podcast with one of my good friends and favorite guests, Pat Lencioni!

Pat is one of the most well known leadership experts in the world who spends his time speaking and writing about leadership, teamwork, and organizational health.

Pat and I chat about how to find joy when it doesn’t come naturally, how important it is to see a Christian therapist, and how to know what to say yes and no to.

Whether you lead a team or you’re a team of 1, I hope you’ll be as impacted by this conversation as I was!

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